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1. Rxg6+ Kxg6 2.Bxh5+ Kxh5 3.g4+ smells good.
Bill Brock
Chicago
duh 2…Kh6
chess is hard!
Sorry Bill but incorrect.
Best wishes,
Susan Polgar
http://www.PolgarChess.com
1. Qc1+
2. Qg5
3. Bxh5
4. Bxg6
I don’t see how Black can stop any of this, although Black could walk into mate on move 4 if not careful.
bxh5, kxh5
q-h7 all over
nevermind, my idea of bxh5 is silly.
both qxq and qxr is a problem
Qc1+ is tough to deal with. King moves out of check, and then Qg5. Then, black is in big trouble.
A: 1. Rxg6 doesn’t work due to Kxg6, 2. Bxh5 (what else) Kh6(it’s unecessary to capture the bishop as well, black’s already two rooks up) 3. Qf7 Qg8, there’s no mate anymore and the pawn on e6 is now safe. Left is Qc1+ which seems to be best:
B: 1. Qc1+ Kh6 (Kg6 runs into a pin after Qg5 as well which surely can’t be good) 2. Qg5 Qe8 (2. Qg8 is worse due to 3. Bxh5 gxh5 4. Qh6 mate) 3. Bxh5 gxh5 4. Qh6+Qg8 5. Rg6+ Qxg6 (Kf7 6. Qg7 mate) 6. Qg6+ Kf8 7. Qf6+ Ke8 8. Qxe6+ Kf8 9. Qd6+ Ke8 10. Qc7!, I like this move since White’s queen end up at it’s original square and dominates the board. White will simply push his g- and h-pawns up the board while the queen keeps Black’s pieces in check.
1. Qc1+ followed by 2. Bxh5 is the solution. (2. Qg5 works as well.)
I needed some minutes to get it, and I believe that 1. Qc1+ is a move which is difficult to find. This raises the interesting question: why some moves are more difficult to find than others? Maybe because we have in our memory less patterns with that move? Or? It is interesting to see that the mating move in Topalov-Kramnik (33. Qc7) that was missed by both players in their match (and by many commenting GMs) was a such move. When our attention is driven to a particular point on the chessboard (g6, in Kramnik-Topalov; g7-g6-h5 in this position) we tend to miss simple moves, if the pattern is completely different from the usual ones. As to myself, I am relatively sure that I would have missed both 33. Qc7 and 1. Qc1+ over the board (where the position does not come to you with the label “White to move and win”).
I would be curious to know how a GM’s mind works in such cases. Susan, what do you mean?
Mauro
http://nellacoloniapenale.splinder.com/
In my poor chess(because i’m a amateur chessplayer with license to kill a king of rivals,xd). it’s interesting bishop take on h5, king take h5, queen cheek and another moviments killers.kises
I agree with Robin and Dan.
Qc1+ followed by Qg5 is the way.
After getting tired of analysing
all of it I played the moves agaist the analyse engine at chesslab.com
She told me that her best option was
to sacrifice her Queen at f6 in move 2.
And the rest looks pure technical.
But she would not tell me how many different mates she found. The possibilities looks huge if white gets all 3 pieces in play.
Mauro’s not so obvious suggestion
to get the white bishop into play
in move 2 also might win.
But i does’nt look natural to me.
I agree that 1. Qc1+ is the solution, and Black is really helpless. But just to clarify in the long variation given by an anonymous above . . .
1. Qc1+ Kh7
2. Qg5 Qe8
3. Bxh5 gxh5??
4. Rh6 mate is better than the line with 4. Qh6+ Kg8 5. Rg6+. 🙂
And if not 3. … gxh5 White will next capture on g6, retain his bishop and probably mates very quickly.
Bxh5 should do it
After 1… KxB
2Qh7+ Kg5
h4+ andQxg6 should do it
after bxh5?? qxc7 might be a good move for black… :))
1.qc1+ is not really hard to find, is it?
as it was taught to me: look for forcing moves first! and there is no move more forcing, than a check – it is what a player has to check (aha!) first, isn’t it?
some checks are not appropriate, granted, but the given position shout’s for some forcing moves (e.g. checks…) – not that difficult to find (the queen is attacked!) to someone who is playing chess …
1. Qc1+
should be the move to come to mind within 1 second – after evaluation of the position.
sincerly
There is another option for black:
1. Qc1+ Kg7
2. Qg5 Qxf6
and there are 2 ways:
3. exf6 is blocking white’s attack,
or
3. Qxf6 with only perpeptual check
What you think?
Marcin, Poland
After
1. Qc1+ Kg7
2. Qg5 Qxf6+
3. Bxh5 Rg8 (if 3. … gxh5 4. Qg7 mates)
4. Bg4
followed by Qe5 with threats against e6 as well as checks on c7 in some variations. The Black pieces are too penned in and twisted in knots to hold out forever.
Sorry, make that
1. Qc1+ Kg7
2. Qg5 Qxf6+
3. exf6+ Kf7
4. Bxh5 Rg8 (if 3. … gxh5 4. Qg7 mates)
5. Bg4
1. Qc1+ Kg7
2. Qg5 Qxf6+
3. exf6+ Kh7
4. Bxh5 Rg8
5. Bg4 is even worse, with threats of a check on h4.
just to finish from the previous anonymous after 5.Bg4
5. Rae8
6. h4
followed by h5
And note also that if black plays 1….Kh7, the immediate 2.Bh5 seems to reduce his options (because after 1.Qc1, Kh7: 2.Bh5, Qf6: 3.ef6, black can’t take on h5 because of Qg5 mating
just to clarify, I was referring to 5.Bg4 in his first note
1.Qc1+ and either 1…Kh7 or 1…Kg7 is answered by 2.Bxh5 when 2…gxh5 allows 3.Qh6+ leading to mate.
from a quick view only if black cooperates, Rx, then bishop x an then Qh7 chck but black dont need to take.
need to look deeper , and evne so i might not find the answerr.
goodnight!
So, I agree with that variation:
1.Qc1 Kg7
2.Qg5 Qxf6
3.exf6 Kf7
4.Bxh6 Rg8
5.Bg4
but black still can defend
with Rae8 and Bc8, and Qc7+
is the loose of good pine f6, so
it looks for me like well established
construction for black.
Marcin, Poland
I do not like the variations given herein … so I’m going to add finally my two pence:
1.qc1+.kg7
2.qg5.qxf6!
3.qxf6+! (NO DRAW!) kh6
4.bxh5!! kxh5
5.qg7 kg5
6.kg3 rh8
7.h4+ rxh4
8.qe7+ kh6
9.qxh4+ kg7
10.qe7+… ++-
(btw: 4…rg8 is not much better – 5.bg4 bc8 6.qh4+ kg7 7.qe7+ kh6 8.qxb4 ra7 9.qxd4 with a hopeless position for black).
sincerly