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There is no discussion thread for the ninth round today, so I (ab)use this one.
Draw between Anand and Aronian after 21 moves in an absolutely not-drawn position! DRAW?
What the hell is going on there?
I was really impressed of Anands play in the beginning of the tournament but he has gambled away all the respect.
Anands play is the play of a coward – I would understand if he was more points in front but he can’t allow something like that while he is only half a point in front.
I hope he will not win any more games (he is not trying to, is he?) and Gelfand or anyone else will become world champion.
Damn, such players destroy my fun watching the championship.
Jochen (
dont watch it then.
Aronian is a dangerous opponent for Anand, he is trying to play rationally and maintain an edge without taking too much risk, and should Gelfand catch up with him, he still has 5 more games.
In general Jochen likes to criticise Anand. Anand is +3 in such a high calibre tournament, not loosing a single game!! Also a almost winning position against Moro! No one can call him coward. Its your understanding of tournament play Jochen, which is low that is the reason you are commenting like this. And about the winner, if anyone plays better chess than Anand let him win. But I hope Anand wins!! We dont want unpleasant WC like Topa and Kramnik. But if Kramnik wins that will be acceptable to all world. Talking about some one else winning, most people will be surprised by that (including the likey champ!!)
“In general Jochen likes to criticise Anand.”
Nope that’s a lie – it’s the first time I critisize Anand alone (btw. the only reason why I do not critisize Aronian as well is as I know that his health isn’t best at the moment – I accept that as reason, else he would have to blame for cowardness also).
The other times I was critisizing all players who drew too quickly – but I can’t remember any draw in this tournament with SO MANY possibilities left like in the game today.
Sorry, but there are two kinds of ‘early’ draws:
Exchanging quickly many material so that there are positions that are “probably draw” [perhaps in addition that there are only rook and different coloured bishops or anything like that] – you could fight on (and for example Moro and Grischuk would do) but draw is acceptable (Svidler-Leko was such a draw).
And there are positions given drawn that have nothing in it that looks like a draw – like the game today, black has the initiative, white has the pawn plus – a position with winning potentials for BOTH sides.
Giving such positions drawn is not very brave, is it? Being afraid of losing…. but taking yourself away the chance of winning. Hm…
“Anand is +3 in such a high calibre tournament, not loosing a single game!!”
I said above that I WAS impressed about the +3… btw. do you wonder about not losing a game if he draws every game as soon as it’s getting exciting?
“We dont want unpleasant WC like Topa and Kramnik.”
I’m not a Kramnik fan as well but I can’t understand how you can tell him unpleasant while defending Anand after the game today.
Kramnik’s chess is much more pleasant than in earlier times. And it is much more pleasant than short draws in exciting positions.
“dont watch it then.”
Fortunately not everyone of the players is thinking so. 🙂
Greetings
Jochen
Last but not least:
“he still has 5 more games”
Who is meant by “he” here?
I think you mean Anand has 5 games to outditance Gelfand. But not to forget that Gelfand has 5 games, too, to do the same with Anand…
it looks like Kramnik is going to lose. I thought Grischuk was going to win as well, but 39 c4 was a little odd, I thought.
Fair enough Jochen, but in tournament Anand had much important opponent Kramnik tomorrow and need not have a tiring game a day before. SO I will say its OK. Of course now with Kramnik’s loss, I guess only Gelfand can be considered a genuine threat. Hope Anand has some good preparation for kramnik tomorrow.
BTW when I said unpleasant about Kramnik I was referring to his off the board behaviour and not on the board. Ofcourse he is one of the greatest there.
“BTW when I said unpleasant about Kramnik I was referring to his off the board behaviour and not on the board.”
Ah, I see. You’re right, but that is unfortuantely a problem that many of the big players had (Fischer, Kasparov…).
I hope there’s no reason to argue anymore here and I hope noone felt treat on his toes (ouh, I hope that expression is correct!).
So in the end it was a big day for Anand and for his fans, indirectly winning a half point to his chasers.
Morozevich – Kramnik 1:0
Grischuk – Gelfand 1:0
But I am glad for Moro that finally he made another full point! He (and Grischuk, too) have deserved it! 🙂
Today’s results are great!
Greetings
Jochen
With stakes up for Kramnik now, we can bet that tomorrow’s Kramnik-Anand game is going to be really interesting. I hope the two top players play a game worthy of their name tomorrow.