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Rxg7+ followed by Qe7+
if Qf7 then Qg5+
if Kh6 then Qf6+
this look like the ticket?
Qf6
Rxg7+ followed by Qe7+
if Qf7 then Qg5+
1.Rxg7+ Kxg7
2.Qe7+ Qf7
3.Qg5+ Kh7
… looks like a win for Black.
1. Rxg7 Kxg7
2. Re7+ wins
1. Rxg7 Kxg7
2. Re7+ wins
For Black, after 2…Qf7.
1. Qf6 Nf2 (Just a delay interpolation; White’s Qxg7# is the real issue.)
2. Kh2 Rg8
3. Qxf5 Kh6
4. Qg5 Kh7
5. Qxh5#
2. … Qg8 with no difference
I don’t think that 1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Qe7+ works after
2. … Qf7
3. Qg5+ Kh7
4. Re7
Yes, White is close to cashing in, but Black gets there first.
4. … a1(Q)+
5. Kh2 Rxg2+
6. Kxg2 Qaa2+ (or 6. … Qb2, but I’ve never written “Qaa2” before.)
7. Kg1 Qf2+ (7. Kh1 Nf2+ 8. Kh2 (or Kg2) Nh3+ 9. Kh1 Nxg5, and now, who knows? maybe 10. Rxf7 Nxf7 and Black’s rook will swing around to deliver mate.)
8. Kh1 Qf1+
9. Kh2 Qh3+
10. Kg1 Qxg3+
11. Kf1 Qf2# (or, 11. Kh1 Nf2#)
How about
1. Rxg7+ Kxg7
2. Re7+ Kg8
3. Qg6 Qg7
4. Re8#
?
Brad Hoehne
With a little more thought, I see that 3 … Qf7 is good for black in the above line… Will keep thinking.
Brad Hoehne
1. Rxg7+ Kxg7
2. Re7+ Kg8
3. Qg6 Qg7
4. Re8#
Something’s garbled here, because 3…Qg7 isn’t a legal move. Two earlier improvements: 3.d8=Q# mates on the spot, but 2…Qf7 wins for Black.
Yes, anon, you’re right.
I’m doing this with no board and out of sight of the previous web page.
Here’s what I think might work now:
1. Rxg7 Kxg7
2. Re7 Qf7
3. Qd4! then if
3… Kg8
4. Re8+ Qxe8
5. dxe8=Q+ Kh7
6. Q8xh8+ and mate
Brad Hoehne
1. Rxg7 Kxg7
2. Re7 Qf7
3. Qd4! then if
3… Kg8
4. Re8+ Qxe8
5. dxe8=Q+ Kh7
6. Q8xh8+ and mate
3…Kg8 does indeed lose (4.d8=Q+!), but 3…Kg6 wins for Black.
Nice job, jcheyne.
Wait Rxg7 Kxg7, Re7+ doesn’t win because of Qf7, leaving the rook to trade Rxf7+ Kxf7, with black still having a two rook + knight vs queen advantage (pawns not included but I think Black has more pawns as well.)
For me, its Re8 threatening promotion.
Re8 threatening promotion.
1.Re8? Nxe1 and wins.
http://kingschess.com/uscf/
Hello,
My name is David Monatelli and I am the chess coach of two IL district 103’s state champion teams. The goal of this web site is to achieve public attention/action to an injustice in scholastic chess caused by the USCF. Ultimately I hope this will bring about change in time for our children to be included in this years national chess championship May 9-11, 2008.
Sign the “Let them play” petition
The USCF Scholastic Council has voted to disallow IL District 103’s State Champion Chess Teams from competing at Nationals in May due to a technicality in the regulation 13.x. I have been fighting this for a month now via the USCF channels. It is now clear to me that one person is not going to make a difference when going up against a non for profit corporation like the USCF. I am looking for support in the chess community. Perhaps if this becomes a global issue something will get done. Don’t just take it from me, please read some of our children’s letters requesting a chance to compete. They were all sent to the USCF board members. Please sign our petition and spread the word!
Links:
* Sign the “Let them play” petitionClick here to sign an online petition supporting our children’s right to play as a team.
* Click here to see some of the kids letters requesting the right to play.
* Click here for a contact list of USCF board members and voice your opinion directly to the Executive board and Scholastic Council.
Background:
I’m David Monatelli the coach of two IL State champion chess teams in 2008 and 13 champion teams since 2003. The problem our teams face stem from a poorly worded USCF regulation (#13). Simply stated it says that you must be attending the same building as your teammates to play together. Back in the day when I actually attended Sprague as a child everything was fine. The schools were K-3, 4-5 and 6-8 respectfully. That was a long time ago but the district still remains one school spread over 3 buildings. However as the population changed the distribution of grades per building also changed. Currently we have the following grade breakdown:
The exact breakdown of grades per building is as follows:
* K-2 Sprague
* 3-4 Half Day
* 5-8 Daniel Wright
With this breakdown of grades per building our 2nd and 3rd graders cannot be a team in the K-3 section and similarly neither can 4th and 5th graders be a team in the K-5 section. (I am sure this regulation affects many other schools across the USA).
NOTE: Our buildings are all located within a one mile radius of each other.
One school feeds directly into the next There is simply no other choice for the children. Our schools do not overlap or duplicate any grades in any of the buildings involved. In theory we could have 9 buildings with one grade in each building or conversely 1 building for all of K-8. The actual children would be the same in either scenario just where they are housed would change. The only thing that changes are the buildings. Perhaps our buildings shouldn’t be allowed to play chess but our children should!
The intent of regulation 13.x is mainly to disallow super teams that can be created from a large school district with many feeder schools. To that extent the rule is useful. However its current wording harshly discriminates against cases like ours. It also gives an unfair advantage to our competitors in private schools that have all K-8 students in one building and have NO geographic boundaries for recruiting their team. We are just a simple public school system that wants a chance to compete.
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
David Monatelli
1.Qf6 wins on the spot, the pawns on f5 and h5 are very weak.
1. Qf6 … (there are only 2 reasonable moves i.e Rf8 and Qg8. Nf2 , Qxc3 are nothing.)
… Rf8
2.Qxf5 Kh6
3.Qg5+ Kh7
4. Qxh5++
1. Qf6 Rg8
2.Qxf5 Kh6 (if Kh8, Qxh5 with mater to follow)
3. Qg5+ Kh7
4.Qxh5++
corrected version. Typo error.
1.Qf6 wins on the spot, the pawns on f5 and h5 are very weak.
1. Qf6 … (there are only 2 reasonable moves i.e Rg8 and Qg8. Nf2 , Qxc3 are nothing.)
… Qg8
2.Qxf5 Kh6
3.Qg5+ Kh7
4. Qxh5++
1. Qf6 Rg8
2.Qxf5 Kh6 (if Kh8, Qxh5 with mater to follow)
3. Qg5+ Kh7
4.Qxh5++
Qf6!!