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From this, Cheparinov looks the one who is being rude. Short may be a jumped-up little man who can’t see the real world because his head is stuck up his own arse, BUT in this case he does have a point. Rule 12.1. states that any action that may bring the chess into disrepute can be punished.
it is clear that short is the one refusing to shake hands…
I can’t stand Short for many reasons, but he is completely in the right here. If I ran the tournament Cheparinov would be on the plane home and bugger the consequences.
i hope short beats the crap out of him in their rescheduled game
I suspect there are rules that allow the Arbiter to award the game to Short which are not specifically ‘the handshaking rule’.
Maybe the Arbiter will appeal the ruling of the Appeals Committee.
Anon 5.05: Short is on the left!
I hate to say this but I think chess is dead. Bobby, the most compelling player in history is gone. Kasparov, one of the best players is gone, and the best chess player in the world runs on a PC. Chess is still a great game but for professionals where is the future?
“Excuse me, Miss! Cheparinov won’t shake my hand!”
Pfft. Just get on with it, Short. Actress.
Good for Short.
I hope Corus does not invite Cheparinov next year.
This is what Anna Rudolf should have done.
I hope and expect that FIDE must make an absolute rule that if you don’t shake hands then you lose. Make them lose rating points also. This is ridiculous and was obviously planned to upset Short same as they did to Kramnik.
If FIDE allows this to continue it will destroy chess.
The Appeals Committee made the right decision. Cheparinov has to write a public excuse (does that mean apology?) for his behavior and we, the fans, can have an interesting game to examine later on. I think the matter is closed so let’s get on with the chess!
“I hope and expect that FIDE must make an absolute rule that if you don’t shake hands then you lose.”
Well, sorry, but I hope that day never happens.
Many great players have refused to shake hands, taken it in stride, and played on, regardless.
But trust Short to pull a stroppy.
This should be left within the personal, psychological, and tactical realm of the players to decide for themselves. Not us, or FIDE to stuff up.
whaaaa he wont touch me! what a f_g get over it cheater weirdo
Wouldn’t it be great if Short had shown him the finger, after two unsuccessful touching attempts? Hahahahahaha.
This is the best chess video ever. Sad a tid-bit, though.
Cheers to the camera man!
touch me he wont touch me gimmie a free point. nice, so i pick my nose and want to shake hands i just figured a way to get gm title
In all the many games where handshakes haven’t shaken, not one player has ever complained – well, before Short came back on the circuit – they just got on with it.
Is he Short a special case?
Cheparinov is in the right because I don’t like Short. It doesn’t matter what either one of them did, I just don’t like Short, so he’s wrong.
“In all the many games where handshakes haven’t shaken, not one player has ever complained”
How much do you know about chess history, anyway? If you don’t know, don’t guess about this stuff. It’s not honest. There was a pretty famous incident in the first Karpov-Korchnoi championship match.
FIDE should cancel the “shaking hands affair” You see, if the other guy has the flu I wouldn’t shake hands with him. And it would be unpolite for the sick guy to offer his handshake. I see no problem to play with or without shaking hands. In this case it will be hipocrite to shake hands if they’re forced to do so as they don’t get along. I mean, if the organizers get them to shake hands and forgive each other for whatever problem they got that be the greatest thing and sincere.(I wish for the sake of Chess politeness rules the event but not everybody thinks the same). Don’t get me wrong. I got absolutely nothing against shaking hands which is te polite thing to do but again, I also do not see a biggie in not doing so.
I like Short. Always did. He’s an entertaining character, and even though he can be a bit, how should I put this? confrontational? obnoxious? annoying? in his comments and behaviour, I think the chess world would be more boring wihtout him. As for the Topalov-Danailov-Cheparinov clan, well, they’re entertaining characters too, for sure, but somehow I don’t feel any kind of sympathy for them. They’re inconsiderate and selfish bullies. They have no ethics, while Short, for all his quirks and provocativeness, does. That’s why I’m siding with him on this, even though I agree that the most elegant thing to do would have been to play anyway, and to beat the crap out of this rude a__hole.
Chepa proved one point, about arbiters consistent lack of rules knowledge. Take courses, guys! Appeals Committees rule.
“How much do you know about chess history, anyway? If you don’t know, don’t guess about this stuff. It’s not honest.”
Yeah, alright, mummykins. don’t go complain to the ethics committee about it. Jesh!
After your little hissyfit, I googled your kind suggestion and found this historical handshake nugget –
KARPOV VS KORCHNOI, 1978
As game 8 was about to start, Korchnoi was left with his hand in midair when Karpov refused to shake with him — ‘Never! Never will I shake hands with you!” Roshal explained during the next press conference, ‘Recent events have shown that the Challenger has not reduced his line of intensifying tensions and under such circumstances Karpov does not wish to shake hands with Korchnoi.’
Schmid sent a letter to Baturinsky, pointing out that the Chief Arbiter should have been informed in advance about Karpov’s decision. Keene commented, ‘It will save Viktor having to go into his dressing room to wash his hands after the start of each game.’
A week later, Keene sent a letter to Schmid apologizing for the washing remark. He also sent cigars, with his own name printed on the wrapper, to Baturinsky. A day later Baturinsky sent a bar of soap, with ‘Viktor Baturinsky’ written on the wrapper, to Keene.
http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/78kk$$01.htm
But that is just a small part of a much bigger controversial game that doesn’t even compare to Short stamping his feet.
Just curious, does FIDE have a
rule that says you can be forfeited
for “trash-talking?”
Reading all the slang here, I once more understood the reason why American’s will not bring up another world champion after Bobby : Simple lack of analytical reasoning.
All the innovative technological/scientific advances are from Europe : Einstein, Fermi, etc.
“Reading all the slang here, I once more understood the reason why American’s will not bring up another world champion after Bobby : Simple lack of analytical reasoning.”
And you gather this opinion from a whole lot of anonymous posts? THAT there is a simple lack of analytical reasoning, buddy.
the last comment is just bollocks. if europeans are so great how come all the great things have been invented or patented in the states? to have the minds is one thing, but if you cant pay them or provide conditions for them its as good as not having them at all… that said, i am a european…
short offered his hand. twice. is it a rule or is not a rule to shake hands? its as simple as that. i dont think short is a lepper that chepa cant touch him. if cheparinov and danailov wanted to make a point of insulting or offending short they should have chosen a million other ways that are not against the rules – that is, that they dont lose the game. theres no reason to pity them for being offended by short for elista and being stupid at the same time. tough for them. 1e4 c5 1-0. oh well.
hello all,
i think both players were wrong
cheparinov should have told the arbiter in advance that he is not entending to shake hands with short, for whatever reasons, it is his right not to shake hands, he cant be forced to shake hands, otherwise it is ganna be hypocricy from the chess community, what is the point from shaking hands infront of the camera to show everything is fine between them, while everything is far from fine between them?!!
short is wrong because he claimed that this is a fide rule which is not, it is only a recommendation not an obligation, consequently short insisted on an undeserved point
i agree with short that, not shaking hand, was the bulgarian camp’s decision, not cheparinov’s
“short is wrong because he claimed that this is a fide rule which is not, it is only a recommendation not an obligation, consequently short insisted on an undeserved point”
An arbiter is free to follow FIDE recommendations, right ?
Arbiters are there to make decisions on these kind of issues using their common sense and experience. If everything could have been resolved without any human intervention they would not be needed.
Bulgarian ship is sinking. No help from Rybka in sight.
“Cheparinov is in the right because I don’t like Short. It doesn’t matter what either one of them did, I just don’t like Short, so he’s wrong”
what a silly comment is above! “Short is wrong because i dislike him” so funny!
Surely you and every guy here knows Short was right! What would be if chep-r-in-ow had accepted handshaking? Nothing! everyone would say that was a nice event, but problem is that neither chepa nor topa can behave on their own they are being “remote controlled” by danailov in all meanings! They are still below 18 and can not live their own lives can not think out of what their manager commands them!
This was another set up only hope FIDE signs the result as 1-0 to be a good example for such un gentelman players like topalov and chep!
it’s only a FIDE recommendation to shake hands and it should stay that way. it should be the players prerogative to shake hands or not. suck it up and play!
Give Nigel a hug!
what a silly comment is above! “Short is wrong because i dislike him” so funny!>>
omg, haven’t you ever heard the expression “agent provocateur”?
Strange stuff.. I find it hard to side with Short here. Seriously, if there were a guy insulting me in the press i also would not like to shake hands with him which could be picked up as “all is well”.
Then, if i were Short, i would never run up to the arbiter and whine that my opponent refuses to shake my hand – deliberate insult? How lame is that? He could equally complain that his opponent did not congratulate him on his taste selecting his tie.
Oh, and FIDE? Please dump that rule as quickly as possible. Pretending something is ok while it is cleary not will backfire horribly. Pride is not something to be taken lightly, also under chessplayers.
“An arbiter is free to follow FIDE recommendations, right ?”
No, an arbiter is there to follow the rules, not his weakling misinterpretations of them. Arbiters are below respectable rating mostly. This is why there are players in all appeals committees who know rules better then the arbiters!! Even that Danailov guy knows better! Oh yeah, he was a rock solid player.
Short should have given him the finger, as someone already pointed out before.
This wall all staged by the great Bulgarian team. Another google headline for chess!! Toilets are full of checkered tissues since.
http://www.fide.com/news/download/Results_of_DAS07.pdf
See here how international arbiters score on tests.
This is one of the most hilarious things ever. I have sent video to all my friends, even non-chessplayers. What makes the video even more funny (beyond the basic inanity of the incident) is that Cheparinov slaps down some bottled water on the table, while Short arrives with a cup and saucer!!! Bwahahahahhahaha!!! Long live Short!!!
Well done Nigel for putting Cheparinov in his place.
BUT a question: who took the video, and why? It looks as if the cameraman had a tip off that something interesting was afoot. If so, then the whole thing was anticipated by on or both participants..