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I think this line wins:
1. b x e6 bxe6
2. q x+ e6 k h8
3. qt f6 q g7
4. qx++g7
Except why 3. … Qg7 instead of Kg8?
how about instead:
1.Bxe6+ Bxe6
2.Qxe6+ Kh8
3.Be7 blocking off defence of the g7 square with mate to follow
Hm 1.Rc1 looks interesting.
or
1. bxe6 … bxe6
2. qxe6+ … qf7
3. qxc8+ … qf8
4. qxf8++
i think
1. Bxe6 Bxe6
2. Qxe6+ Kh8
3. Rc2 Qxc2*
4. Qf6+ Kg8
5. Qg7#
on 3 … any queen move
– same as above if queen stays on the same file OR
– RxR mate OR
– RxR QxR, QxQ #
=)
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reloader tactic! Named by my newest favorite tactics book author Martin Weteschnik.
1. Bxe6+ Bxe6
2. Qxe6+
winning…
@Geoff
3. Rc2?? Qxc2 with check and white will be mated
3.Qf6+ followed by Be7!! winning
Kamargov
after 3.Be7 which blocks the defense… the queen still HAS a defence of g7 at c3 square!
2r3k1/2q1Q2p/4p1pP/1p1b4/pB3P2/P5PB/5R1K/3r4 w – – 0 1
How about this idea.
1 Bxe6 Bxe6
2 Qxe6 Kh8
3 Re2
threatens mate.
this does not work
Bxe6+ Bxe6
Qxe6+ Kh8
Be7 Qc3
Qe6+ Kg8
bf6+ Qxf6
Qxf6+ Kf8
Qf7#
because
Be7 Rh1
Kxh1 Qc6+
Qxc6 Rxc6
and white has a winning position but not mate.
not the most difficult problem but every problem makes you better i suppose.
Bxe6+ Bxe6
Qxe6+ Kh8
Rc2 Qxc2
Qf6+ Kg8
Qg7++
Rc2 is the main move deflecting the queen off the seventh rank. after that black is sirloin steak medium rare.i might add if black queen doesnt decide to take the rook on c2 then they lose there queen and that material loss is not going to be good.
wolverine
wolverine, apparently it’s not as easy as you think…In your line, 4.Qf6+ would be illegal because your king is in check 🙂
Bxe6+ Bxe6
Qxe6+ Kh8
Ba5 Qxa5
Qf6+ Kg8
Qg7 ++
yeah your right . I did it to fast didnt check my moves for errors. kind of how i dont check my spelling for mistakes most the time. Im using the bishop for delection this time.
wolverine
Bxe6+ Bxe6
Qxe6+ Kh8
Ba5 Qb7
Bc3+ Rxc3
Qe8++
heres another way black could threaten mate on h1 therefor white has to respond with the bishop check to deflect that rook and then move queen e8.
wolverine
Okay, Wolverine, so what do you do if black simply plays Qd7?
be6 be6
qe6 kh8
be7 qc3
bf6 is over
as someone pointed out
Bxe6+ Bxe6
Qxe6+ Kh8
Ba5 Qd7
Bc3+ Rxc3
Qxd7 Rc8
Qg7++
that was a good alternative you suggested by black.i just thought about defletion once again. that one took a few minutes and made me think. maybe this problem wasnt so simple after all.
wolverine
@wolverine
ok possability but
Rd6 and not Qxa5 would kill that
and i am sure Susan thinks its simple, I however can not figgure it out.
i think.
After:
1. Bxe6 Bxe6
2. Qxe6+ kh8,
can’t you cover the c3 square with 3. Qf6+ and play Be7 after black moves his king?
1.Bxe6+ Bxe6
2.Qxe6+ Kh8
3.f5 gxh5
4.Qxf5 Rc1
5.Qf8+ Rxf8
6.Rxf8#
therookery
Bxe6+ Bxe6
Qxe6+ Kh8
Ba5 Qd7
Bc3+ Rxc3
Qf6+ Kg8
Qc3 Qb7
Kh3 Qh1+
Kg4 Qb7
Re2 Rd8
Qf6
now i can play Re7 and get that black queen off the seventh rank. thats about all i can see for trying to mate. the Qb7 move covers c8 and g7 and threatens mate on h1. so white has to try and get that queen of that seventh rank.
wolverine
1.Be6+, Be6
2.Qe6+, Kh8
3.Ba5, Qd7
4.Qe5+,
if 3….Qc6
4.Qe5+,
1.Bxe6+ Bxe6 2.Rd8+!
bill brock: And you play 2. Rd8+ with which rook? with the black one? Changing sides – very inovative approach…
I still don’t see what you guys dislike on the line given before 1. Bxe6+ Bxe6 2. Qxe6+ Kh8 3. Be7 with quick mate to follow (both Qf6 and Bf6 are threads, black Rf8 is useless because of simple Bxf8 and Bg7 next move) or (the only way how to survive for few moves is to force a queen exchange at the expense of rook) 3. … Rh1+ 4. Kxh1 Qc6+ 5. Qxc6 Rxc6 where you are simply bishop up and the win is veryveryveryvery…very easy.
Susan: I don’t understand why you title a lot of these puzzles “Find a winning plan…” where there actually is no “plan” – just tactics – you have to find that one sequence of moves which forces a clearly winning position.
A classic case of “wrong Rook.” 😉 Or is it a different kind of chess blindness? (Imagine playing 2.[Black]Rd8[“check”] in a tnmt game.
Still you must admit it’s a very alert & most unexpected zwischenschach.
(removes tongue from cheek)
1.Be6+ Be6 2.Qe6+ Kg8 3.Bd6 and once Black loses that tempo the line after 3.Be7 ie. …Rh1+ 4Kh1 Qc6+ Qc6 does not work since if the Queen where to go to c6 right after 3.Bd6 Qc6 then 4.Qf6+ Kg8 5.Qg7++.
Posted by Khris.
anon Khris: the problem with your line is that once the black Bd5 is not present on the board, 3. Bd6 is simply hanging, so black replies 3. … Rxd6 and wins. Therefore 3. Be7 is much better :-).
This kind of mistake during calculation (we see some piece still on a board but in the calculated line it is not present any more) is (i would guess) one of the most frequent one, we all fall into it from time to time…
I would guess that in an actual game after playing the first two moves you would spot the problem immediately and think for a while…