N Engine Pts SB Ho Ry St Cr Iv Sh Na Hi
1 Houdini 1.5 24.0 147.00 1= == == == 11 1= 1=
2 Rybka 4.0 23.0 128.00 0= 0= =1 11 10 1= =1
3 Stockfish 2.0.1 20.0 128.00 == 1= 0= =0 == 11 =1
4 Ivanhoe B47cB 17.0 115.00 == =0 1= =0 =1 01 ==
5 Critter 0.9 17.0 114.50 == 00 =1 =1 == 01 ==
6 Shredder 12.0 12.0 91.50 00 01 == =0 == == ==
7 Naum 4.2 12.0 80.50 0= 0= 00 10 10 == ==
8 Hiarcs 13.2 11.0 91.50 0= =0 =0 == == == ==
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Chess Daily News from Susan Polgar
Houdini is clearly best.
At the moment only 1 point ahead of Rybka – clearly best!?!?
too many draws – draw is one point-victory is 3 points
Do you consider a 1 point lead being “clearly best”? Sounds like a statement that a Houdini fan-boy would make…
Mark my words: Rybka will win this tournament, ahead of Houdini. Rybka also defeated Houdini in their individual match last year. Rybka didn’t lose a single TCEC engine-vs-engine match last year.
Houdini may not be “clearly best”, but it is good enough. For Rybka to justify its cost of $85 (UCI, mp version), it would have to be markedly superior to any free engine. I can’t see myself buying another Rybka upgrade.
The market for commercial chess engines in general is in big trouble.
“For Rybka to justify its cost of $85 (UCI, mp version), it would have to be markedly superior to any free engine.”
I don’t use controversial, blacklisted and cloned Rybka-engines such as Houdini, even if they’re free. There’s a good reason why Houdini isn’t rated on lists such as CEGT, CCRL. In fact, I’m surprised that Polgar promotes this illegal clone.
Besides, Rybka is better for analysis. Try finding a 6-man EGTB for Houdini.
There isn’t any open source chess engine in final.
Wat a pity!
Susan, sweet greetings.
Stef
“There isn’t any open source chess engine in final.
Wat a pity!”
Stockfish and Ivanhoe are both open-source.
“I don’t use controversial, blacklisted and cloned Rybka-engines”
You’re aware that Rybka has been proven to everybody (except Rybka fanstics) to be based largely on Fruit, which was open-source. Since Vas Rajlich is using open-source code in a commercial engine, he’s violating the open-source license, which makes him no better than the people he so freely condemns on his highly censored forum.
As for some of the computer organizations banning the alleged clones, these are controlled, in my opinion, by Mr. Rajlich. Apparently the people at TCEC don’t care if Mr. Rajlich sends them free copies of Rybka.
Rybka beat a weaker version of Houdini last year. Also, 100 or so games doesn’t prove anything, as results can vary widely. Get up to 50,000 games and then the results might be meaningful.
Not many can argue that Houdini and Stockfish play well enough to be in the same neighborhood as Rybka. Houdini and Stockfish are free. Rybka costs $80+. Houdini and Stockfish are updated regulary. Mr. Rajlich has said that he MIGHT update Rybka later this year.
As far as I’m concerned, the free engines are going to put commercial chess engines out of business. The commercial engines that survive will do so by bundling with other features (i.e. as Shredder and Fritz have done).
Anybody who wants to see both sides of this argument can go to talkchess.com and read. I’ve had plenty to say there, as have many others.
Why is Houdini considered illegal? Isn’t Rybka based on the Fruit?
@Tom Barrister
I am me express badly.
Not in final but in “Elite Match”.
1 and 2 in “First Divisions” they have to still compete in “Elite Match”. I make a mistake?
For the rest, you say things that I share.
Regards
Susan, sweet greetings.
Stef
Anonymous: I understand what you intended to say.