This is a critical game for Kramnik. He needs to regroup fast after 2 consecutive losses. But he has shown that he can come back in the past. Here is the LIVE Board in case if you do not have access to a chess server.
By the way, I do update my comments very frequently. Therefore, please refresh your screen in order to see the updated comments 🙂 Enjoy 🙂
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.g3 Bb4+ 5.Bd2 Be7 6.Bg2 O-O 7.O-O c6 8.Bf4 Nbd7 9.Qc2 a5 (This is still theories for the Catalan. However, this is an opening that usually gives White a solid game, something Kramnik would be looking for. Yasser Seirawan added: “The “normal move here is 10.Rd1 although White has played… 10.Nbd2 10 Nc3 10 Ne5 and probably 10.Rc1 as well.”)
10.Rd1 Nh5 11.Bc1 b5 (Once again, Topalov is ahead on the clock by nearly 20 minutes after only 11 moves! This is a serious concern for Kramnik as bad moves came around time pressure. Yasser Seirawan also agrees about the clock situation: “I suppose White’s two main choices are 12.Ne5 and 12.b3 (Why else to retreat the bishop to c1). Yes, again, a huge discrepancy on the game clock.” Yasser also added something which I find very interesting: “I recall an interview Vladimir once gave… Imagine the moves 12.c5 f5 are played… Vladimir said he didn’t think that the g2-Bishop was any better than the c8-Bishop. I thought it an insightful comment…. But wrong.”)
12.cxd5 (I am a little surprised by this move. 12.Ne5 would be another choice.)
12…cxd5 13.e4 dxe4 14.Qxe4 (I think White is a tiny bit better. This is the kind of position Kramnik likes. Black’s problem right now is the a8 Rook. He needs to be careful with it. 3 choices are Rb8, 14…Ra7 or 14…Nb6. I would choose 14…Rb8 though. However, this is a critical moment as to how Topalov wants the game to continue. That is why he is really taking his time. For those of you who do not have access to ICC, PlayChess or FICS, you can watch the LIVE game here. It is the FREE official website.)
14…Rb8 (As I expected. This is the safest place for the Rook for now.)
15.Qe2 (This is the kind of position where Black has to be VERY patient and cautious. Black’s pieces are not coordinated yet. His h5 Knight is unprotected. His b8 Rook could be in a potential danger and his c8 Bishop is still undeveloped. Topalov would need to consolidate his position before doing anything dangerous.)
15…Nhf6 (15…Bb7 is also fine. But I can’t blame Topalov for retreating the unprotected Knight. Here, I think 16.Bf4 would be a sensible choice. That is what I would consider. Another note is Topalov is once again up by around 25+ minutes on the clock. This is really amazing! By the way, I will be on Chess.FM on Tuesday night with Fred Wilson to talk about this match. This is his last show on the match after game 11. I believe it will start at 8:30 PM NY Time.)
16.Bf4 (That is what I expected. It’s a sensible and logical move.)
16…Rb6 17.Ne5 (I think Black should chase the Bishop with Nd5. Otherwise, White would have too much advantage. Yasser noted: “Now the question is how to continue after 17…Nd5 Black readies Bb7 and “good” development. Will Kramnik play 17…Nd5 18.Bxd5, giving up the beautiful g2-Bishop? After 18…exd5 19.Nc3 could win a pawn…“)
17…Nd5 (As I just mentioned above, this is the most sensible move.)
18.Bxd5 (This is where the tough decision comes. Should White trade the g2 Bishop for the Knight? As Yasser commented earlier, Kramnik does not seem to care for the g2 Bishop. He thinks his g2 Bishop is equal to Black’s undeveloped c8 Bishop.)
18… exd5 19.Nc3 (Now the best choice for Black would be to give up the b5 pawn with 19…Bb7 20.Nxb5 a4 or 19…Nf6 20.Nxb5 Ba6..)
19…Nf6 20.Nxb5 Ba6 21.a4 Ne4 (We are seeing once again that Topalov does not have a problem sacrificing materials. It would not be normal if Topalov plays the entire game without sacrificing something. In this position, Topalov is down a pawn. However, his compensation is his Bishop pair, good Knight on e4 and the White Knight is pinned on b5. 22.Rdc1 is the most logical move here. However, Kramnik is spending a lot of time on his 22nd move. The tough question is how to continue this game? He no longer has the lead. Therefore, he cannot waste a game with White by allowing a draw. He needs to score.)
22.Rdc1 Qe8 23.Rc7 (Now Kramnik tries to be aggressive just like Topalov. Black must play Bd8 and chase the Rook away. He cannot allow Nd7. That would mean game over! Kramnik CAN play aggressive chess if he WANTS to. The problem is sometimes he is over cautious and is happy to play safe. But who can blame a guy who was over 2800 and defeated Kasparov in a match?)
23…Bd8 (The only logical move. This is the kind of position that is very suitable for Kramnik, a nice game with good flow and little risk. In the mean time, this is an uncomfortable position for Topalov. He needs to be VERY careful and VERY patient! One wrong move and game over. This is certainly one of Kramnik’s better games. Let’s see if he can capitalize on it and if Topalov can hold it. Will the time issue spoil Kramnik’s game? We shall see.)
24.Ra7 (I am not sure if I am very comfortable with this move. The problem I see is 24…Bxb5 25.axb5 Qxb5 26.Qxb5 Rxb5 27.Ra2 and does White have enough to win here? I am not sure.)
24…f6?? (This is a horrible blunder! This will cost Topalov this game! 25.Nd7 Rf7 26.Nxb6 Rxa7 27.Nxd5 and White has a winning position! Nigel Short said: “Will Kramnik think of moving his knight? What do you think?:-) )
25.Nd7 (Now it would take a miracle or a Kramnik blunder for Topalov to survive this position! I am stunned of the 24…f6 move! And he played it so fast! Big mistake!)
25…Rf7 (Now Nxb6 and game is almost over!)
26.Nxb6 Rxa7 27.Nxd5 (It is completely hopeless for Topalov. All he can hope for is some cheap tactical shots.)
27…Rd7 (Now 28.Ndc3 and there is no more trick for Topalov.)
28.Ndc3 Rxd4 (Now 29.f3 and the game is done. Rxd4 made things even worse. This is a shocking turn of even for Topalov. I had a bad feeling for Topalov some moves ago. As I pointed out earlier, this was a very uncomfortable position for Topalov, a position which required a lot of patience and precision.)
29.Re1 (Just as affective as 29.f3)
29…f5 30.Qc2 (The best move! 30.f3 does offer Black some tactical chances.)
30…Rb4 (All Kramnik has to do is play about 10 moves in 17 minutes and not walk into any cheap shot and the game is his. White is up a pawn and is about to do damage to the pinned Knight on e4.)
31.Nd5 (This is not the most precise move. 32.f3 would have been better.)
31…Rxb5 32.axb5 Qxb5 (Now Topalov is down an exchange. The only thing Topalov has is a pair of Bishops and White has weaknesses on the light colored squares. Kramnik needs to be a bit careful but he still has an overwhelming advantage.)
33.Nc7 (Black can play 33…Bxc7 or 33…Qc4, both are not so great. White should win this without much difficulties.)
33…Qc4 (White can simply trade Queens and he will have a simple endgame. Yasser Seirawan also said: “Yep, trade Queens and Ra1, looks simple to my eyes.”)
34.Qd1 (I am not sure why Kramnik does not choose the simplest endgame win. Why take any chance at all. Yasser also added: “I’m having a real hard time guessing Vladimir’s moves!”)
34…Bxc7 35.Qd7 h6 36.Qxc7 Qb4 (This is still a fairly easy win but Kramnik is making himself work harder.)
37.Qb8+ (Exchanging Queen. He should have done this a while back.)
37…Qxb8 38.Bxb8 Nd2 (Another inacurrate move but it really does not matter anymore. 39.Ra1 looks strong. How will Black defend the pawn?)
39.Ra1 (The strongest move, putting pressure on the a pawn. Black has no play at all. This is completely over. This games shows the weakness in Topalov’s game. As I pointed out earlier, I am not sure if he had the patience to play an inferior position without doing something drastic. As it turned out, he lost it by playing a blunder 24…f6.)
39…g5 40.f4 (Nothing left to play for. Time to resign. Kramnik made time control.)
40…Nb3 (GM Nigel Short said: “The fat lady has taken her position on stage.” GM Jonathan Rowson offered his opinion: “I think Kramnik has probably passed the nervous/anxious lets put the ball in the back of the net phase and is now enjoying himself.” GM Dima Tyomkin said: ” in general, Kramnik is better tactician than Topalov.”)
41.Ra3 Bc4 42.Bc7 (Is there anything left for Black? Nigel added his humor: “Researching my family history I discovered that my great-great grandfather Short had been a toilet cleaner (honestly). He would have come in handy for this match.”)
42…g4 43.Bxa5 and Black finally resigned! The score is officially 5-5 with 2 games to go. It is 3 wins for Kramnik and 2 wins for Topalov on the board + 1 forfeit win.
This was a very well played game by Kramnik. He got the exact position that he’s best with. In the mean time, Topalov got into a position where he was not so comfortable with. I personally believe that it was a bad choice of opening for Topalov today. He got himself in a very uncomfortable position right from the start.
After yesterday’s game, so many were saying that Topalov will now roll over Kramnik. After this game, the tide has turned. Many now go the other way. GM Tyomkin said: “Topalov has horrible blunders every 3-4 games, if you noticed, too much for someone who claims to be a WC.”
And just as I said yesterday, it is FAR FROM OVER. Do not count either one of them out. They are capable of losing or winning consecutive games, especially with their contrasting styles. We have two more games left. It will come down to the wire. Let’s sit back and enjoy the exciting ending.
I will be on Chess.FM on Tuesday night (8:30 PM New York time) to do a big show about this match. It will be the last show of Fred Wilson before the end of this match. Just as on this blog, I will do my best to offer you my fair and balance personal opinion and thoughts about everything that has taken place in this match.
Hello All,
If this is a “book opening,” why do you think GM Kramnik is taking so much time to move? This, I think, hurt him in game 9.
I’m no master level player. Just wondering why he’s already eaten up so much more time on the Catalan?
Look forward to some opinions.
Sincerely,
Tim Harris
I liked:
10. c5 –
think tis position is similar to some Queens gambit lines and sometimes c5 is a good cramping move.
D.K.
My prediction is that the champion will emerge from this game.
If Kramnik wins this at will, he will go on to be the winner.
I am still rooting for Topalov but the last game was unusual for Kramnik so its hard to say..
Hello Susan & Chess Fans
Great Sunday morning for a chess game
Is c5 still posible now?
D.K.
I am just wonderin how much yesterdays’s game took out of Kramnik? We will see in this game what he is made of1
Dear GM Polgar,
Before your site is inundated with insults toward you and other rude comments from bloggers. I want to thank you for taking the time from you busy schedult to give chess fans live commentary.
I, along with my students, appreciate it.
Many Thanks,
Tim Harris
A funny picture about Toiletgate (look at h1 square):
http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=topeeqr0.jpg
Hi Susan, Which command must I enter to follow the game live on ICC? Best, Manfred
Hi Susan !
Short: Thx for this very nice page.
What do you say to a plan for black like 12. c5, g5 with the plan f5 and Ng7 if knight is attacked ?
Ha ha Fritz6 is giving white an advantage after:
12. c5! (he loves this move)
evaluation +/= (0.28)
D.K.
How exciting it would be if GM Kasparov would come back and play the winner of this match!
I think this would bring attention away from the scandal earlier in the match, the forfeit point gained by Topalov, and REALLY
reinvigorate chess around the world.
I think a “Kasparov vs” the winner of this match would make headlines around the world and do so in a positive manner that will bring respect and dignity back to the World Championship.
I don’t know if such an event will ever occur. However, it would be most interesting.
Cheers!
Tim Harris
WAW Kramnik going for it!!
D.K.
I can not simply beleive that topalov played important move 13…..dxe4 within 10 seconds. Whats going on in his mind ? He cant expect to put timer pressure again on kramnik like yesterday !! Why is he playing blitz opening ?
Dvoretsky mentioned in his great books in chapter about Stonewall with Bd6 this Kramnik’s words about bishops g2 and c8. Kramnik’s words are joined with function black bishop after b7-b6 and Bc8-b7/a6/ or Bc8-d7-e8-h5 – in both cases is good bishop on g2 neutralized. Of course, all is about complex position, not only about bishops.
Dear Anon,
Thank you for your comment. I sincerely hope that civility will reign supreme in today’s comments.
For those who want to say negative things about Susan, such as occured in yesterdays responses, ask yourself before you submit your vociferous comments:
“what have I done for chess?”
If the answer is merely to insult, then please comment but KEEP IT CIVIL.
It’s OK for people to “agree to disagree.” Just be more careful in how you address another person who has never done a single thing but help the game we love.
Now…back to the game….
Respectfully,
Tim Harris
It won’t help protect Ra, but — otherwise! — Black could play, perhaps, 14 . . . Nc5
blitz play by Topalov obviously came to an end… amazing, isn’t it?
greetz, Vohaul
This position looks like it culd have cme out ofa sicilian … some very strange alapin variation perhaps? 😀
D.K.
Just wondering — yesterday I asked Susan for more information in the live game blog posts — after expressing my appreciation.
Tim, Anon: Is that the kind of post you are saying was uncivil?
Kramnik started to play very fast?! (hi prbably wants to avoid time pressure as much as posible?!)
D.K.
Well thank you Tim for your response I have now got my username so I wont be Anon anymore
Nice game… Kramnik should go after the Rook with Bf4.
Hi Daz,
No. I’ve reviewed the comments from yesterday and from the other games. Some are just absurd childish rantings.
As President Thomas Jefferson once said, “Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle.” We all love chess or we wouldn’t be on this site.
Everyone (I hope) can tell the difference between an honest difference of opinion (which I think is good for us here), and expressing your thoughts/feelings. If everyone agreed, things would be rather boring in life as well as chess!:)
It’s not you…it’s the people who make ridiculous comments like GM Polgar “is rated only…” and so on. She has proven herself.
But, no, I do not mean this toward you.
Now…back to the game! It’s a good one!!!
looks very quite on the board..maybe a draw today ..neither player taking any chances
Thanks, Tim (whew!).
It seems that though Topalov has a slight lead in “development”, his pieces are not coordinated, and he has some major rearranging to do before he can get some traction.
Agreed that 16 Bf4 appears best for Kramnik (among the obvious choices).
Susan, Bb7 was loosing the exchange. See GM Shipov’s comments on http://www.chesspro.ru. But you need to register first (free of charge).
16.d5! Bxd5 17.Nd4 Nf6 18.Bxd5 Nxd5 19.Nc6
GM Kramniks position look quite good…I predict a win for him, at least a draw, but he needs to watch his time. I don’t see him losing unless a complete blunder occurs.
However, I’m not the best person to make predictions and analyze GM games!
Why not Bf4 now to chase the rook
“We all love chess or we wouldn’t be on this site.”
Quote of the day.
And remember that us fans, GMs, IMs and everybody else are all custodians of the game (quoting Bradman who said this for cricket). So let’s all stick together!
Cheers.
Kramnik might be rattled 30min down
I thnk Ne5 is probably the only move … (moving the bishop once again just feels bad) what is Kramnik doing with his time??
D.K.
Ne5 looks even more exciting, but I don’t think Kramnik will dare…
Hello Susan,
Can you tell me why there is no live video feed of this match. They have video footage but don’t put it on the web. Not that I am interested in what happens on the toilet. I would like to see the players and the board and prefferably from different angles. Besides this fabulous blog and the talk on the different chess servers, to me it would make this match come so much more alive. Technicaly it should not be so hard to realize. Much more easy I suppose then for me to travel to this forsaken place Elista on the other end of the world.
Hi everybody. Kramnik is losing this game again. He is again on the verge of a zeitnot and nothing could save him Even the notebook in his toilet
Topalow just forgot he has more then 1 min on the clock 😀
D.K.
I guess its time for some exchanges.
Knight and Bishop!
Now its time for Topalov to think deep. I guess this would be one of the most crucial moves of this game.
Will it be Nd5?!
I don’t understand GM Kramnik using so much time. He’s down by over 1/2 hour!
The longer the game goes…this time issue will, possibly, come back to haunt Kramnik.
We’ll see, though…
All the Best,
Tim Harris
I was just about to say I like Nd5
17.. N-d5 looks ok
Nd5 is the obvious continuation here. Not sure why Topalov needs more than 1 min here 😉
Can someone explain the meaning of the little rectangle at the lower left of the
http://www.worldchess2006.com/main.asp?id=1087
sit, that sometimes turns red or blue?
Thanks
tim harris said:
” I don’t understand GM Kramnik using so much time. He’s down by over 1/2 hour”
Actually, Kramnik is only 2 moves behind the 3 minutes average. It is not Kramnik who plays slow, but Topalov who plays fast.
Gabor
I like white here. I think black has some difficulties untangling his pieces. WHite has good control of the long diganonal and c6; for example if black tries to neutralize it by Bb7, then Bxb7, Rxb7, Nc6 picks up the “two bishops” advantage. and after Qe8, nxe7 qxe7 and then d5!?
Aha — Topalov’s N at f6 is defending against the invasion by Qg4, Bh6 — so T. is reluctant to move it, maybe.
To das:
My guess is it shows the connectivity to the main server where the moves are being recorded. ie. When it changes colour, it tries to refresh the move list.
Daz, I think it has to do something with the refresh rate.
D.K.
Veselin TOPALOV said : «The match is not over» after game 9. Sorry, but this match is over since the game 5… : TOPALOV has lost
“Aha — Topalov’s N at f6 is defending against the invasion by Qg4, Bh6 — so T. is reluctant to move it, maybe.” – Daz, there is another Knight that can easily go to f6… Don’t think this is the reason.
No draw he’s planing a win
Bxd5 Fast move by Kramnik… Looks like he has thought of a good plan here.
19. Nc3
Kramnik : Super fast today!
Kramnik is going for the pawn advantage 😀
D.K.
I like 19 . . . b4, 20 Nd5 Ba6 for Topalov
1/2-1/2
it is starting to look like a blitz 😀
I suppose 21 a4 . . ., no?
Did Topalov play to fast and made a tiny blunder right now? Or is an attack coming out of nothing, which Topalov sometimes can deliver … ?!
D.K.
IN A VERY COMPLEX POSITION WITH SEVERAL TACTICAL LINES AND OPTIONS VESELIN TOPALOV PLAYED RYBKA’S …NE4 WITHOUT A SECOND’S THOUGHT.
There is e.g. Rdc1 with many different lines you need to calculate.
Anyone still doubt Topalov uses Rybka?
I think topalov didn’t see Nc6! after:
22. Rc1 Nd6
23. Nc6!
D.K.
Just ignore that!!!! Duhhhhhhhhhh
Tell that after u see the match’s ending. Topalov is 0.48 down according to Rybka and 0.75 according to Shredder.
Oh Geez,
Here come the conspiracy theory brain chip folks. I hope no one will even dignify such comments.
Mr. anon who loves Rybka…go away!
Here we have a funny line:
22.Rdc1 Nd6 23.Nc6 Qd7 24.Qxe7 Qxe7 25.Nxe7+ Kh8 26.Nxd5 Nxb5 27.Nxb6 Nxd4
I kind of like it, I think Kramnik is going to win this one!
D.K.
P.S. Topalov may find better replies then I did 😀 (it is a posibility :D)
What do the numbers signify?
(Obviously the higher the number, the greater the inequality of the position, according to the chess program Rybka or Shredder.)
But beyond that?
How’s 22.Qh6 here?
Nd3
Kramnik again digging his own hole here with time.
All you theorists who begin your projection with 22
— What are you assuming for 21 … … ?????
the immediate idea looks like ne4-d6
I assume that move 21 has already been played.
I don’t think anything is clear in this game — too much is going on all over the board for it to look drawish.
The computers may be able to detect highly non-obvious moves that the players won’t think of, so
their estimate of the position might be irrelevant.
(Or do you set the computers at the GM’s levels ???)
Jupi for Kramnik!
D.K.
22.Rdc1
Kramnik uses up lot of time on this one.
Move 21 has not been played on my view of official website.
Is there anything yet after 21 Nxb5 Ba6
??? I see nothing, and K. has been thinking for many minutes.
ANOTHER RYBKA’S FIRST CHOICE …QE8 PLAYED WITHOUT A SECOND’S THOUGHT!
Even Anand never did this. This is unheard of. Playing complex tactical lines instantly, LIKE A COMPUTER.
Susan did you mean Rdc1 instead of Rdf1?
22.Rdf1 is a typo.
It should read 22. Rdc1
22.Nd3!? Bxb5 23. ab5 Rb5 24.nc5 Rb4 25.Nxe4 dxe 26. Qxe4 Bf6 27 Be3 +/=
To das:
The chess programs are designed in such a way as to evaluate a chess position in terms of a score (pawn value). It tries to evaluate the best move which gives it the best score by various algorithms. Rybka’s evaluation is one of the best in the world as of now. Even though it takes some time to understand deep sacrifices. Shredder on the other hand, evaluates the sacrifices quite well.
So, after 22. .. Qe8, the score for white:
Rybka=+0.43 (Depth=16) Move: f3
Shredder=+0.70 (Depth=15) Move: f3
Hi fellow bloggers,
Here is an entertaining piece I created myself. Enjoy.
The magazine “DrawBase” did an interview with Kramnik right after Game 9 on top 10 reasons he should lose the next game.
10. The opponent will be lucky to see all his pieces arriving at proper locations sharp on time
9. His position won’t fall apart by a miracle
8. I am constantly worried about what stunt Danilov will come up with next
7. I still haven’t gotten over my forfeit loss
6. I am down 2-0. Two consecutive losses and can’t find my confidence
5. I am not used to playing for a win, now that I have played for a draw all my life
4. There are only three games left. I am afraid there is not enough time to catch up.
3. Topalov will come up with an opening innovation and I can’t cope on the board
2. I miss my pocket chess set
And the number one reason I can’t win the next one.
1. Topalov won’t give me enough time for potty breaks
And Kramnik will probably enter the endgame with a passed pawn after:
22.Rdc1 Qe8 23.Rc2 Bxb5 24.axb5 Qxb5 25.Nc6 Bg5 26.Qxb5 Rxb5 27.Bxg5 Nxg5 28.f4 Ne6 29.f5 Ng5 30.Kg2 Ne4 31.Rxa5 Rxa5 32.Nxa5
Well the theme is clear the line will problably be different but in the end it shuldn’t matter.
D.K.
“Move 21 has not been played on my view of official website.”
I’m viewing it on the official site as well. It’s working fine for me.
22..8 23.Rc7 played
Sorry to babble on so much, but there’s a lot of time to talk, and I enjoy hearing others’ opinions (with one exception).
It looks like Topalov is not behind, maybe slightly ahead now?
I bet Kramnik did not think of Qe8 in his calculations — it’s not easy to visualize, I think.
23. rc7 idea is Ra7xa6
1/2-1/2
Official
I was thinking 23 . . . Bd6 was not bad.
Is the actual Bd8 better?
Hello everyone! To me today’s game isn’t as exciting as the last two. I’m hoping for a Topalov victory, but today may be Kramnik’s day. I don’t like 23.Rc7…Topalov has allowed his position to be penetrated (Pigs on the 7th is an advantage).
Now, I realize some of these comments about cheating is tongue in cheek, but some are not. Please get a grip. Nobody is cheating at the board! The reason Kramnik or Topalov come up with computer moves is that the programmers for years have tried to make computers behave as human super GM’s as much as their algorithms allow, except with the human like calculation errors. So please…enough already!
NEED I TELL YOU …BD8 RYBKA’S FIRST CHOICE.
Who is this foolish anonymous?? A draw in this position is most unlikely!!! No GM would draw here, position is highly unbalanced.
By the way, Kramanik seems to have good winning chances here and topalov needs to play energatically if he is to equalize kramanik’s advantage.
And one more thing, Bd8 was more or less ONLY move!! man! where does these anonymous posters come from?? There is no CHEATING here for GOD sake!! It was also my first choice and susan’s first choice!
I wish to recommend an international ban on using computers during the game. Afterward for analysis, fine, but during the game commentators should only look at the board. How unenterprising and dull to hear an endless parade of patzers proclaim “obvious moves” and “white is clearly better” armed with Fritz57.
Mike D.
“Here is an entertaining piece I created myself.”
Good effort. But “entertaining” is not how I would describe it though.
Hello All,
Out of curiosity, IF Kramnik wins (or draws) today, then HOW WILL THIS change both players’ official rating?
Doesn’t each win, draw, or loss change their official rating even if it’s by a single point?
Just wondering.
Many Thanks to All who answer this for me.
Tim Harris
(Strong suggestion: Just ignore idiotic posters.)
I don’t see an obvious draw at all here. Way too much is going on.
Opinions?
lol @ anonymous. Rybka sounds like a model name for a toilet!
“Who is this foolish anonymous??”
At your service, sir.
Kramnik going to be in time trouble again pretty soon.
This looks pretty good for Kramnik. I think he is doing better time wise today than before. This is something he should work on…maybe he can take a group class on time management with Ivanchuk! 😀
I really hope VK wins!
Tim — The second part of the following article explains how the ratings work:
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3030
Kramnik has the initiative. But, blunders can happen as we all witnessed in games 1 and 2.
Let the RYBKA idiot rant. This person is wasting our time by responding to his posts.
Ignore them.
Anyway….any comments on the rating question?
“Out of curiosity, IF Kramnik wins (or draws) today, then HOW WILL THIS change both players’ official rating?”
There is a world championship at stake here. We’ll worry about ratings later, after this match is over. One things at a time.
Thanks NEWPORTNEXUS….I’ll read the article.
T. Harris
f6!!!!!!!!!! What the hell???!!
Topa went mad or what???
Topa blunders with 24..f6
Susan there is one queen too many in you line…
D.K.
i liked 24. Rd7 it had the advantage of luring the knight away from e4 temporarily 24…nf6 25. Ra7! Bxb5 26. ab5 Qb5 27. Qb5 Rb5 28.Ra2! then if Ne4 to stop Bd2 for instance (which was the point of Rd7) then 29.Nc6!
Nd7 and good bye and good night!
Mr. Topalov’s fly is open. He’s hiding something in there.
Finally (too late?) Topalov will give his Q & Rf some room to move.
Nd7 is not so difficult … (what is Topalov’s idea? he obviously saw nd7?!)
D.K.
“Here is an entertaining piece I created myself.”
I am not serious!!
I bet you could come up with top 10 on topalov.
What about like a shot like 25.Qg4!? g5 26 Qh3!?
uh oh i think topalov just blundered
Kramnik again in a move a minute situation.
0-1
ou I forgot that the night was pinned, he he silly me 😀
Still Topylov looses a pawn but I guess it is playable…
D.K.
Nd7 Rf7 Nb6 Ra7 Nd5
“uh oh i think topalov just blundered”
Shredder thinks so too.
Nd7 Rxb5 is the idea perhaps, Susan? And if axb5, then Bxb5 forking white’s queen and knight?
Yesssssssss!! Boom…shake the room!
“I am not serious!!
I bet you could come up with top 10 on topalov.”
But I’m serious. That wasn’t “entertaining”.
And no I can’t.
no ken Bxb5 Qxb5 the knight on d7 blocks the black queen from hitting b5
But after Bxb5 White can play Qxb5
Well, Kramnik is clearly winning. This match is going down to the wire.
IT’LL BE GREAT!!!!!!
Tim Harris
i think the game is over shortly with some accuracy on kramnik’s part 25…Rf7 26. Nxb6 Rxa7 28.nxd5 Rd7 29. ndc3 Re7 30 Qc4+ kh8 31. nd5! and 32. re1
Is the strange move 25 . . . Re6 viable?
I think this moves are easy to find but Topalov may play diferently …
25.Nd7 Rf7 26.Nxb6 Rxa7 27.Nxd5 Rd7 28.Ndc3 Re7 [28…Nxc3 29.Qxe8#] 29.Qc4+ Kh8 And white is clearly better. 1-0
Guess today is Kramniks day.
D.K.
(followed by 26 . . . Nc3)
25…Re6 26 Nxf8 qxf8 27 Ra8 just up exchange and threatening Bc7
foud another line but white still keeps an advantage!
25.Nd7 Qf7 26.Nxb6 Qxa7 27.Nxd5 Bxb5 28.axb5 Qxd4 29.Rd1 Qa4 30.f3 Ng5
And white is visibly better.
D.K.
“To all those who were saying Topalov getting moves from Rybka… 24. .. f6
What Just Happened??”
Computer hang problem gentlemen, need to reboot Windows XP.
Rebooting…
Me thinks Topalov needs to go for a long pee in the bathroom.
played—–> 25…Rf7 26. Nxb6 Rxa7 27. Nxd5
Kramnik will lose on time.
0-1.
u know who kramnik-Topalov reminds me of…take a guess in chess and appearance!
Daniel Vettori v Nasser Hussein
I liked 27 . . . Qc6
but probably Topalov’s Rd7 is better
and no the answer is not Fritz vs Rybka 🙂 lol
And another tactical line:
27.Nxd5 Bxb5 28.axb5 g5 29.Bc7 Bxc7 30.f3 f5 31.fxe4 Bd8 32.Qc4 Kh8 33.e5
The position is just full of small tactics.
D.K.
Kramnik didnt retreat N as i commented earlier. Instead he picked up another pawn at d5 and thereby he has won this game. I predict now 1-0, despite the timer trouble thats looming. 2 pawn advantage, with possible sac 28.Nxf6….
Ndc3 is another great tactic:
28. Ndc3 Nxc3
29. Qxe8#
(not that hard to find and the comp agrees)
D.K.
they play and even resemble Tal-Botvinnik to some extent. Kramnik is tall and wears glasses and so was Botvinnik. Topalov is short like Tal. isnt it funny how the short guys who would probably get decimated in a fist fight are always the most aggressive on the chessboard. lol
Well, the blog is now taken over by kramnik fans.
Its hard to understand why Topalov would play a blunder only he knows.
Kramnik is tall. Topalov is not short.
Susan sugests 27 Ndc3. But what about response
27 . . . Rxd4 ? (White Nb5 is of course pinned.)
0-1. Kramnik in serious time trouble again.
Topalov is probably thinking “I may have a shot if I try to flag Kramnik…” and sadly he has a point 😀
D.K.
“Now 28.Ndc3 and there is no more trick for Topalov.”
R:d4?
TRANSMISSION ERROR! TRANSMISSION ERROR! EARPLUG NOT WORKING. NOW TOPALOV BLUNDERS A PIECE WITH RXD4??.
What happened to Topalov? Did the modem leading into his brain go dead? 🙂
whoa check this out 28. ndc3 Re7 29. Qc4 kh8 30. Nd5 Re6 31.ndc7 Bxc7 32.Qxc7 Nxf2!!
f3 an bye bye pony 😀
D.K.
f3 Kramnik come on … 😀
D.K.
Topa putting serious timer pressure on kramnik with instant move 29…..f5. Kramnik has less than 2 mins per move to get next 11 moves in. Blitz time fun time now.
man that woulda been kewl in Mikhail Tal wannabe style but unfortunately after g5 Qb8 Bc8 nc3 gxf4 qxf4 white is just two pawns up lol
29.Re1 ?!?!? What the hell??? What is wrong with f3??
A blunder, in my opinion. The lack of clock time is starting to get in Kramnik’s head.
threatening 30 . . . Rd2
Could it be that Topalov saw something X moves ahead none of us can see?
I mean, the blunder was just too bloody obvious, even for someone like me, who is a total amateur, not even a good one. That’s the only one suspicious aspect of the f6 move.
Gabor
Kramnik just has to play the best move… f3 was good enough …
D.K.
Re1 was weak. Kramnik gone! Flag falling…falling down…falling down…
I think we can all agree that both guys have proven that they are not using a computer.
Kramnik probably just enyoing the position …
D.K.
frankie make him say matte! name the movie for that quote and win a prize!
..f6 reason?
I think topalov just felt bad for Kramnik and decided to give Kramnik a game back without talking to his manager. 🙂
and the answer is ….. 🙂
frankie make him say matte….. referring to frank dux whom the movie “Bloodsport” was based on played by Jean-Claude Van Damme
Qc2 [Kramnik went to the bathroom!!]
Topalov fighting to the bitter end. I like that.
D.K.
WHy not 30.. Rc4? keep the pressure on the queen
oh i think matte means i surrender or i give in french
What is Kramnik doing? (why not take the simple line?) Susan can you explain?
D.K.
Kramnik is letting Topalov get some counterplay …
It hate to hear all the time things like “f6 was such an obvious error” or “How could he play such a bad move?”.
I guess nobody in this blog has calculated all complex variations that started with 24…f6.
The players are humans like we and not computers.
the secret to Kramnik winning is the jeans he is wearing today!!!!
i dont know about nd5…kramnik seems to be playing psychological games now 🙂
Topalov has gone for broke — all or nothing now.
threatening 33 . . . Bb6
???
well, I think its time again for a Danilov press release!!!
Not really, nobody wants that.
In many ways I am glad that Kramnik now has his chances despite the forfeit.
Now the better player can win the match!
Now Nc3 but I don’t like the position anymore (it is obviously still winning but not much time left) if it would have been me I wuld have a heart attack by now …
D.K.
11 minutes for the next 8 moves… I just hope we don’t see another blunder now.
31. Nd5 Rxa4 32. Ndc7!
What a fun match over the board! Lots of fighting games! All tied up with 2 to go .. who could ask for more?
33. Nc7 Bxc7 34 Qxc7 Qxb2 35. Qd8 Kf7 36. Qd7 Kg6 37. Qe8+! Kf6 38. Rxe4! bam fxe4 Qc6+ x a6 resign Toppy
It’s seems that Kramnik wants to exchange some pieces and go into the Q+R vs. Q+B ending, without taking any tactical risks before the time control. Not such a bad strategy, given his time deficit.
my line is 100% forced best for both sides and completely losing for topalov lol
Topolov is hoping for Nxb, qxq!!!!!
come on man Qd1 is definitely playing games psychologically lol
It is 34.Qd1 Susan
I think K. blundered and T. will now win easily.
duh topalov shoulda played Qd4 attacking f2 Qb4 allows Qb8+ exchanging queens lol
Susan: White played 34.Qd1, not Qc1 as you have.
Is not Kramnik running out of time ?
nd2 lol that would be something if kramnik would move the bishop
the voice from inside the stall!!……Vlad move ur bishop to f4 attack the knight rofl
Er, I take it back.
Kramnik is preparing for the next match by toying around with Topalov. Mind games!
nb3…….ok its time to resign now toppy get a good night rest. kramnik showed u who ur daddy was today
Topalov could have used those 35 minutes he has still got to think some more before 24. … f6. But I guess his priority was to prevent Kramnik from going to the bathroom.
Daz, you need to change your name to “Diz” … 🙂
NewportNexus, alas, you are right. (But I’ll stay daz.)
Amazing match!
Two great players. One will have to go home a loser though.
At least the decisive result will be on the chessboard.
here in Finland we have a good laugh !!!
we don’t dare judging such a great champion !!! ah ! topalov !!! your tricks !!! oh topalov !!! you are a GENTLEMAN !!!
instead of 22…Qe8, 22…Bf6 seems
good, preparing Nd6 and putting some pressure on d4. If 23.Nc6 then Dd7.
Another anonymous moronic comment.
see you all at the next game!
Had fun today.
vvchess said: “At least the decisive result will be on the chessboard.”
I hope so, but it there is a big risk that the outcome of game 5 will decide who wins this match…
moronic comment ???
excuse me !!! everybody knows when to stop the game !!!
at least, SHOULD !!!
Maybe Topalov’s parapsychologist can hypnotize Kramnik into not moving his rook? It’s the only chance.
The problem with everyone using “Anonymous” is that is gets confusing to whom certain comments are directed. My comment was to the idiot who wrote that Susan’s hero is losing this game.
hello susan,
along with brilliant play by both grandmasters we are also seeing things like a missed mate in game 2, an overlooked knight fork in todays game…
why do you think that is – great play at one hand and “silly” mistakes at the same time?
erik
susan is a samourai ! greetings from finland !!!
It’s disrepectful of Topa not to resign after 42. Bc7.
“Time to resign”
Susan,
This is the World Chess Championship.
This is Topalov.
With still many pieces on the board, why it’s “time to resign”? You know Topalov. One blunder of Kramnik can reverse the position. You know Topalov will play till K vs K+R/Q.
whoehoe…..go vladimir :D:D
1-0 !
LOL Ok, I was wrong, Topalov does not believe so much in blunder power. 🙂
DID TOPALOV GIVE THIS GAME AWAY , SO HE WINS THE REMAINING GAMES AND CLAIM IT WAS ALL ON BOARD..
KRAMNIK LEADS 5-4.
To Ioannis
If time pressure was still on against Kramnik, I am sure Topalov would have continued till the last piece.
if fide is staging this ,they have done a good job at it , because its all in the papers now and chess has gotten alot of publicity for it
topalov leads 5-5
Topoloov stretched the boundries of proper manners yet again with his late resignation
WELL IM IN THE TOP TEN OCTOBER FIDE LIST AND IF I WANT TO SHOUT ILL SHOUT. MOVE 24 DOESNT HOLD WATER
WHO IS THE FAT LADY?
Thank you Susan for your comments!
They are full of blood! Seems the game is always in run above my eyes 🙂
To iniscrib
Which GM are you now?
Rank Name Title Country Rating Games B-Year
1 Topalov, Veselin g BUL 2813 0 1975
2 Anand, Viswanathan g IND 2779 0 1969
3 Kramnik, Vladimir g RUS 2750 7 1975
4 Svidler, Peter g RUS 2750 7 1976
5 Morozevich, Alexander g RUS 2747 10 1977
6 Ivanchuk, Vassily g UKR 2741 12 1969
7 Aronian, Levon g ARM 2741 7 1982
8 Leko, Peter g HUN 2741 7 1979
9 Adams, Michael g ENG 2735 18 1971
10 Gelfand, Boris g ISR 2733 11 1968
Or does FIDE mean “Federation of iniscrib Demented Echecs”?
Kramnik Rules!!!!!! Ban Topalov from chess for one year as punishment for his bad ethics!
“Topoloov stretched the boundries of proper manners yet again with his late resignation”
With at least 20,000 players in the world not understanding why Kramnik resigned yesterday, you got’ta be joking?!
WHICH GM DO YOU THINK I AM
Good job Kramnik 😉
“hello susan,
along with brilliant play by both grandmasters we are also seeing things like a missed mate in game 2, an overlooked knight fork in todays game…
why do you think that is – great play at one hand and “silly” mistakes at the same time?
erik”
I’m not Susan but …
I think it is because of the possibilities of outside interference.
If one side is trying to implement a strategy involving outside help, and the other side is trying to detect and interrupt that strategy, there’s another “game” going on besides the one described in the rules of chess.
Spy stuff. But it’s today’s reality.
Kramnik’s last two losses were just a rope-a-dope! Now he comes back with the uppercut! Toppy never saw it coming! He’s stunned! In Game 11, Kramnik will feint with the right and then floor him with a left hook! Toppy’s eating canvas! The crowd’s going wild! Kramnik is calling for Adrian! His new nickname is Vlad the Impaler! RETURN OF THE KING, BABY!!
Inscrib is Morozevich. I am surprised you didn’t know that.
Very interesting match. Very few draws and lots of scrapping. Gotta love it. Hang in there Kramnik, you da man.
hi Susan,
just a very bad player from germany (national rating 1750). However, I simply enjoy your page. You are doing a great job in terms of promoting chess, of explaining things and to do so with a proper sense of humor. keep on.
Stefan (Berlin)
First of all:
I am very happy about this blog! As a quite ordinary player I’m learning a lot.
Thanks to Susan Polgar for the interesting comments!
This match is as exiting as any sport game – perhaps that’s why some “fans” are forgetting good manners in their eagerness to support their idol.
I admire both as players, and are enjoying this meeting of two different approaches to the game very much.
But, but:
Sad with that forfeited game 5 – I’m unable to hope for a Topalov-win, although I love his aggressive, entreprenant and risk-willing play.
I’m sure a lot of us would be very happy to see Topalov give up that undeserved point – what a gesture that would be!
I can understand why Topalov’s sticking to every advantage he can get – considering the enormous pressure it must be playing a match like this.
But I wonder if he can defend to himself if he should win the match with by “handicap”?
Jeppe