During the whole match the team Kramnik took moderate wait-and-see attitude. They avoided conflict as much as possible, and only reacted to attacks from the other side.
However, as the match finish approached, the Russian initiated a counterattack. A few hours before the start of the Game 11, Carsten Hensel issued an open letter, clarifying Kramnik’s position about FIDE decision regarding the Game 5. After the game Vladimir said that the goal of this letter was to confirm his position in anticipation of future legal actions, and ruled out a supposition that this was an attempt to exert psychological pressure on the opponent. However, it looked exactly so from the outside…
The Game 11 was expected as Topalov’s last real attempt to win the match in the regulation time – the Bulgarian has Black in the Game 12. However, the struggle did not follow his plan. Kramnik’s reaction to today’s innovation of the Bulgarian was as effective as Topalov’s fruitful opening idea in the Game 9. Veselin had an advantage, but it was not exactly to his liking – there was no direct attack, and he was not prepared to collect the crumbs of Vladimir’s positional concessions. Having no clear target, he lost the sense of danger, although this time the consequences were not as catastrophic as at the start of the match. Kramnik did not find ways to win.
The draw favors Kramnik? Considering match strategy – yes, certainly. Vladimir has White on the last day with a whole day of preparation as well as positive experience of decisive battles – remember Brissago? However, Topalov looked much more relaxed at the press conference, and signed so many posters as if he already won the match…
Source: Official website
The simple fact is that yesterday’s game was Topalov’s last chance. Even if he wins the final game, or wins the tie-break, his “world championship” will be tainted the free point he got as the result of Danailov’s shenanigans. With the score as it is, Kramnik is the only player who can still win this match.
And another simple fact is, that instead of staying in his rest room wailing like a slapped spoiled brat, Kramnik may have played game 5 like a real professional sportsman. Topalov and the arbiter waited for him to do just that.
Please note that in the article the following material is repeated:
However, the struggle did not follow his plan. Kramnik’s reaction to today’s innovation of the Bulgarian was as effective as Topalov’s fruitful opening idea in the Game 9. Veselin had an advantage, but it was not exactly to his liking – there was no direct attack, and he was not prepared to collect the crumbs of Vladimir’s positional concessions. Having no clear target, he lost the sense of danger, although this time the consequences were not as catastrophic as at the start of the match. Kramnik did not find ways to win.
Kramnik sits like a lonely hound dog mooning at the toilet and defaults. That, he thinks, is enough that for any match outcome he claims the right to a title he never had, World Champion.
And some people say Danailov is the tricky one?
ok, lets sign an agreement that you each player will have his own chair during the match.
after two games, we will say, theres only one chair for both to share.
….
its not about the toilet, its about a contract that was signed by fide and both players.
then it was treated as a piece of scrap paper by fide.
and THEN it was used as a merit to award the point to topalov – when kramnik didnt want to play by rules which were NOT the ones he has signed.
fide needs some integrity. before potential sponsors at least. who would sponsor a sport in which its leading organisation breaches its own contracts during a World Championship match?
I feel this last press release by Kramnik’s team is quite warranted. I myself have wondered precisely what Kramniks view of “toiletgate” is. As for Kramnik being a spoilt brat I suggest you read this article on chessbase (http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3406) before making these attacks. The manner in which Topalovs appeal has been handled by the organizers is shamefull, and I perfectly understand Kramniks reaction to the unwarranted closing of his toilet. Add that to the fact that the arbiter never should have started the clock, it was clear to everyone (except, apparently, the chief arbiter) that Kramnik did not show up in protets to the appeals comitee’s decision.
It was Kramnik who broke the agreement first. After agreeing to all conditions, Kramnik demanded to change the chess set. Then he demanded to install a glass wall by the stage. Topalov agreed to both without making any fuss. When Kramnik can’t get what he wants, he acted like a spoiled child. The media here think Kramnik is unprofessional.
Apparently some wish Toppleoff to win due to a point not won on the board. Why? Talk about cheating…
Aside from that silliness, it amazes me the bias that FIDE shows in their reporting! How can they get away with reporting like this? Surely these reports can be used by Kramnik and team when they sue, as they rightly should.
Kramnik is a spoiled cry baby and he has no chance in court. Sue away! Better to eat chicken?
HE, SUSAN ! Please clean up this post by cutting repeated paragraphs 😉 Sounds like there were some extra cut’n’paste’s.
I get a good belly laugh when the few continue to portray Kramnik as a crybaby. Who was the big “crybaby” that instigated the whole ridiculous and unreasonable toilet thing in the first place?? Um…that would be “Topalov the crybaby”.
FIDE’s reports are biased enough to show that they were against Kramnik. He will have no problem winning his lawsuit.
we cannot listen to danilov anymore. why cannot he be like Mr Kramick who is a fine bloke to talk to
I heard a story from elista policeman who said topalov is hard to control for 24 hour
To the blogger who quoted a Chessdebase article: never believe anything Chessdebase says, they are completely biased.
The debasing of chess has go on for quite enough!
Kramnik is very right. He should look for his rights. The decision of FIDE’s (always) very suspicious organizers to give Topalov a point (and Kramnik had white) was absurd and unfair. The score should be 3 – 2 (I only care about wins), with Kramnik having two extra white games.
Topalov and his manager behaved like losers and won an ilegal point, thanks to FIDE.
Unfortunately, I really doubt of the intentions of this organization called FIDE. Once again they mess up with chess due to an evident bias, making me contest the ‘merit’ of the players in this match.
Kasparov proved right when he said they were biased. They are biased and incompetent. This just spots the match and chess in general. It’s very unfortunate for chess being in the hands of such stupid people, again…
To the person who says chessbase is biased…Bull.
They have simply reported what people are saying. They challenge you…find top GMs or relevant leaders of some sort who take Topalov’s side in this mess and they will post it.
It is only those who don’t like to see Topalov losing who resort to talking trash about chessbase.
The organizers had to stop Kramnik behaving in a way that could be used to cheat.
Then he CHOSE to default.
Now he says ANY match outcome and he is the whiner. I mean winner. Or both.
You sign a contract that gives general conditions. If something is not specified, such as one player finds a new way to cheat, the contract allows (through the appeals committee) that changes can be made. No contract has to foresee everything.
Kramnik can sue and lose (again). I think they won’t pay the 500K until he signs an agreement not to sue.
At least 2 GM’s are pro-Topalov and Chessdebase (like the anonymous poster rightly quiped) does not mention them. It also does not give Topalov’s site on its links (but of course it highlights Kramnik’s). All the reporters comments are against Topalov, all the articles are anti-Topalov, etc. What more do you need to be convinced that Chessdebase is biased? Are you blind sir? Do you have any decency? Are you aware that Chessdebase is a commercial site (not a news reporting site)? Do you know what commercial sites do? (here is a clue: they sell something, in this case Fritz and co.). If they champion Kramnik (because he will play Fritz) who do you think they will support?
Chessdebase is so biased that NOT A SINGLE WORD HAS BEEN SAID BY THEM ABOUT SUSAN’S BLOG (were you can find a middle ground about this debate). They also keep very quiet about Rybka’s successes (even if it has been the hotest news for quite a while in the chess world), etc. Chessdebase has really disaponted me.
Lets not forget that the nasty Nigel Short (the very one who described to Greg Shahade his sister’s bosoms in “detail” when she was 15) is Chessdebase darling. Thy always publish his rants and shower him with praise. Shame on you Chessdebase for supporting a violent potential sex offender who attacks people (like Gata) without provocation!.
P.S. (Nigel is also increadibly nasty to his fans, he completely ignores them or even insults them).
After the game Vladimir said that the goal of this letter was to confirm his position in anticipation of future legal actions, and ruled out a supposition that this was an attempt to exert psychological pressure on the opponent. However, it looked exactly so from the outside…
I wonder if FIDE’s lawyers have advised against publishing such borderline libelious attacks on Kramnik? Because even my octogenarian grandmother can figure out that such demonstration of bias is not going to help FIDE in court.
Just when you think this lamentable organization couldn’t act more stupidly and unprofessionally, it finds that extra gear. Incredible.
Mark,
I just report what they wrote 🙂
Best wishes,
Susan Polgar
http://www.PolgarChess.com
hi susan,
hw r u. i hope u r fine.
my boyfriend told me twas actually kramnik’s psy-ops who got in d 1st strike.
we believe the many c.r. visits were intentionally done to bait topa’s camp into reacting.
kramnik’s camp correctly analyzed danailov. they anticipated danlov’s reaction would be violent and outrageous.
poor topa. they bit d bait and got hooked, line and sinker. now topa will have to live down forthcoming jokes, insults, etc.
d rest is history.
bravo kramnik
One of most effective ways to support your side by presenting biased information is to hide facts, supporting your opponent. ChessBase does just that, hiding and ignoring documents, views and comments that support Topalov. Even when there is no way to ignore some documents which are thrust upon them by readers like myself, they supply them with snide comments evidently meant to form a negative opinion about the document. An example is the open letter of the Bulgarian Chess Federation which was allegedly shown to them by a reader. This letter is by “famous Bulgarian grandmasters” [quotes put by the ChessBase editor with the clear intention to make this laughing matter with his readers]. The ChessBase editor further commented that this letter is not signed. This is a patent lie, however, because if you go to the site of the Bulgarian Chess Federation, you will see the original of this letter, signed by all Bulgarian grandmasters. I hardly need to say, however, the the site of the Bulgarian Federation is not listed in the list of Chess Federations in the ChessBase links. However, the chess federations of such “famous” chess nations as Iran, Turkey, Wales, Scotland, and Portugal, are listed there.
What Kasparov said on Saturday Oct 8th about the forfeit of game 5 – well, he criticized Kramnik for not showing up and predicted a victory for Topalov. Does anyone knows by any chance how this interview went unnoticed by the very objective chessbase site? The link is
http://beta.uschess.org/frontend/blog_23_28.php
Regards,
Svetoslav
lantonov,
I personally don’t speak nor read Bulgarian – the Bulgarian Chess federation site – http://www.chessbg.com(? is that it?) – is a bunch of symbols to me, and probably the same for most people who read this blog.
It would be great if you could provide a direct link to the document you speak of so everyone here can see the signatures for themselves. Strange you would not provide the link in your first post…
As for english translations, I give you
Official Statement of the Bulgarian Chess Federation from Russian Chess as the only one I can find.
Svetoslav:
That gripping Kasparov interview you plugged as NEWS on Oct. 8th was probably left out because there was really no news value in it whatsoever. Perhaps Chessbase could have stretched an entire article on the comment Kasparov made: “Out of the first five games, the fifth was the most exciting”.
Just because the Exiled King speaks, that does not mean it is news.
Mark
http://chess-training.blogspot.com
Your support of Chessdebase is obvious because you have a conflict of interest. We cannot believe a single word you say about this because of it. I am sorry but this is how the world works. I do believe anything Susan says about this because it is in her best interest to be neutral. This is one of the reasons Chessdebase will never say anything about her blog (with 75000 visits!), if her blog is not news I do not know what is.
The link that you have – http://www.chessbg.com – is the correct one for the Bulgarian Chess Federation. In it, there are several statements on the dispute, of which only the last one was noticed (and laughed at) by ChessBase. The link in the Russian site is a relatively correct translation of one of the earlier statements (30.09.2006), which of course went completely unnoticed by ChassBase, as were many publications in the Bulgarian media about that match.
I have been blinded by the dirt thrown at the noble chess community by the machinations of the Topalov-Satanailov pact of evil, but I meditated last night and had an eerie dream in which a kind angel came down from the heavens above to give my pour misguided soul His blessing of love, and His was the face of Vladimir Kramnik, with His faint and loving benevolent smile, and I saw a man of high chess virtue whose noble and bright character was shining down on me like an amazing grace, and I felt how I became purified when He spoke to me in His melow, benign voice, “I have cometh down to Elista to battle the forces of evil and rot, and die on the chess boardth for thee, chess fans”, and a solitary tear rolled down my pale cheeks. In a separate, completely unrelated report from Kalmikiya, chessbase published and express report, “During rest day, Kramnik saves a crying baby from a burning house, authorities suspect Topalov as the likely arsonist”. In the meantime, Svidler and Bareev released an open letter stating that “There is irrefutable evidence that Chess deity Vladimir Kramnik can cure plague and diseases by punching you in the face or stomach. Too bad he has never hit a person in his life.” Kramnik fans around the globe are appaled that there are leftover human debris who still refuse to follow the cult, and issue a moral anathema.
rAMEN (instant)
If lantonov really thinks Chessbase is missing things, he should:
1) Present links to them here.
2) Send them to Chessbase.
3) Then show us after a few days whether or not Chessbase is biased for not including them.
Otherwise, he’s just blowin’ lots and lots of billowy, green and stinky smoke!
I have sent Chessdebase ten times Susan’s Polgar’s blog information (the size of its audience, its breaktrough novel format, all the activity on it, etc.) and they have ignored it. If you work for Chessdebase please stop trying to insult our intelligence by “defending” it.
I have sent ChessBase links and information in hundreds of posts. All ignored, without exception. My hand is on the Bible when I say this.
The real smoke screen is ChessBase, and the anonymous poster who evidently works for it and defends it.
Now read the last piece of “news” on the ChessBase, commenting a game from the Bulgarian team championship. It is supposed to appease the critics and show that ChessBase is “objective”. But even in it the information is distorted, and if not else, shows the ignorance of the ChessBase staff about chess events. They write “[chess in Bulgaria] is doubtlessly thriving, and doubtlessly thanks to the Bulgarian World Champion Veselin Topalov”. Well, gentlemen, I strongly doubt your words. Because chess in Bulgaria has a long tradition and was popular long before Topalov was born. Topalov is here because of this tradition, not the other way round. I can say many more things about ChessBase bias and put all the links you like but there isn’t any sense in doing this. Because there are always the anonymous users who spit and throw dirt at everything said and at every fact they see.
I will provide the link to the original letter in support of Topalov with the signatures of all Bulgarian chessmasters only after I see ChessBase provide a link to the letter in support of Kramnik with the signatures of the masters which ChessBase claims to have signed it. Otherwise, I consider Kranmik’s support letter as a fabricated letter with the names of chessmasters pasted under it by the ChessBase editor. This suspicion is supported by the purported posts by chessmasters wanting to be added in the list of names under the letter. In the ChessBase, I see published only the original of the letter of Susan Polgar in support of Kramnik.