Rf1 is the first move I think of since I thought it wins two pieces for the rook due to the double check, but white really doesn’t have anything other than to lose the rook instead of the bishop at the end:
1. …..Rf1 2. Kf1
Forced by the double check. Continuing:
2. …..Ne3 3. Kf2
Of course, Ke1 leaves the bishop unprotected. What I really missed here was that 4.Kd2 leads to a skewer with the bishop from e3. All in all, 3.Kf2 is the best move, but still losing:
3. …..d2! 4. Ra1
Or any where else on the 1st rank other than d1 or e1:
The white has the advantage of a piece but the position is favorable to black. The black is preferable because the pieces are all active. Pawns can promote and incumbent a discovered check.
Example: 1… Ne1 (Menace 2. Rxg2 and 3. Rg1# or 1… Ne1 Ne3 2. Rxg2+ d2) 2. Rxe1 Re2+ 3. Kh1? Rxe1 4. Bh3 d2 and Black wins. (but the white can play better Uhmmm) 🙂
Example:
1… Ne1 2. Rxe1 Re2+ 3. Nc5! Bxc5+ 4. Kh1 Rxe1 5. Bd5+ Kf8 6. Kg2 Re2+ (not 7. Kf3 Rf2+ 8. Ke4 Rxf1 9. Bxc4 d2) 7. Kh3 d2 8. Nxd2 Rxd2 9. Bxc4 And the black should win.
I have not calculated this in mind but I moved the pieces on a chessboard. 🙂
It is clear that black must find a good move for the rook and try to gain something with the discovered check. 1. … Rf6+ wins the knight straight away, but leads to a drawish position. I don’t see any other moves winning something directly. So I suggest to give another piece in order to get the white rook: 1. … Ne1! Threatens Rxg2+ and Rc2+ winning the rook. Black can onky meet both threats by taking the knight: 2. Rxe1 Re2+ 3. Kh1 Rxe1 …and the pawn on d3 should make it to the first rank, e.g. 3. Ng5 (was attacked) d2 4. Bf3 Rxf1+ 5. Kg2 Rxf3! over and out
and it looks like the promotion of the d-pawn cannot be stopped, since the knight on f1, being pinned, cannot stop the advance, the bishop on g2 is tied down to the protection of the knight on g1, and the knight on e6 cannot stop the pawn either. I don’t see any improvement for White in this line.
and it looks like the promotion of the d-pawn cannot be stopped, since the knight on f1, being pinned, cannot stop the advance, the bishop on g2 is tied down to the protection of the knight on g1, and the knight on e6 cannot stop the pawn either. I don’t see any improvement for White in this line.
Ah, I see I missed Stef’s suggestion of 3. Nc5!, after which the White bishop can check with Be5+, giving the White king time to protect the knight on f1, and unpin himself, by moving Kg2. I agree that this is the strongest line for both sides.
Rf1 is the first move I think of since I thought it wins two pieces for the rook due to the double check, but white really doesn’t have anything other than to lose the rook instead of the bishop at the end:
1. …..Rf1
2. Kf1
Forced by the double check. Continuing:
2. …..Ne3
3. Kf2
Of course, Ke1 leaves the bishop unprotected. What I really missed here was that 4.Kd2 leads to a skewer with the bishop from e3. All in all, 3.Kf2 is the best move, but still losing:
3. …..d2!
4. Ra1
Or any where else on the 1st rank other than d1 or e1:
4. …..d1(Q)
5. Rd1 Nd1 and black will win easily.
The white has the advantage of a piece but the position is favorable to black.
The black is preferable because the pieces are all active. Pawns can promote and incumbent a discovered check.
Example:
1… Ne1 (Menace 2. Rxg2 and 3. Rg1# or 1… Ne1 Ne3 2. Rxg2+ d2)
2. Rxe1 Re2+
3. Kh1? Rxe1
4. Bh3 d2 and Black wins. (but the white can play better Uhmmm) 🙂
Example:
1… Ne1
2. Rxe1 Re2+
3. Nc5! Bxc5+
4. Kh1 Rxe1
5. Bd5+ Kf8
6. Kg2 Re2+
(not 7. Kf3 Rf2+ 8. Ke4 Rxf1 9. Bxc4 d2)
7. Kh3 d2
8. Nxd2 Rxd2
9. Bxc4 And the black should win.
I have not calculated this in mind but I moved the pieces on a chessboard.
🙂
Best regards
Stef
1….Ne1 appears deadly
Black has to many Knights
He should jetison one with Ne1 and then kick ass and take names
Yancey Ward
It is clear that black must find a good move for the rook and try to gain something with the discovered check.
1. … Rf6+ wins the knight straight away, but leads to a drawish position.
I don’t see any other moves winning something directly. So I suggest to give another piece in order to get the white rook:
1. … Ne1!
Threatens Rxg2+ and Rc2+ winning the rook. Black can onky meet both threats by taking the knight:
2. Rxe1 Re2+
3. Kh1 Rxe1
…and the pawn on d3 should make it to the first rank, e.g.
3. Ng5 (was attacked) d2
4. Bf3 Rxf1+
5. Kg2 Rxf3! over and out
I like Ne1.
We need to prepare to play d2, so the defender of the square needs to be removed.
1. Rxf1+, Kxf1
2. Ne3+, saying: Either leave the bishop or face d2
1)
2. …., Ke1
3. Ba5+, b4
4. cxb3+, Kf2
5. d2 – game over.
2)
2. …, Kf2
3. d2 – game over.
Its…
1.Ne1 and its finish.
1. … Ne1 (threatening Rxg2+ with mate)
2. Rxe1 Re2+
3. Kh1 Rxe1
and the d-pawn can´t be stopped without losing decisive material.
greets, jan
@jdalberg:
after
1. … Rxf1+
2. Kxf1 Ne3+
3. Ke1 Ba5+
the simple move
4. Rc3! saves the day.
Not entirely sure on this one. Two approaches look promising. The 1st one looks like it will win eventually, but the 2nd, if sound, wins much quicker.
Try #1:
1. … d2
2. Nxd2 [after 2. Rd1, 2. … Ne1 is deadly]
2. … Rxd2+
3. Kh1 Ne3
4. Bf3 Rxb2
Material is even, but the advanced c-pawn and the favorable position of the Black pieces favors Black in this endgame.
However, 1. … Ne1 immediately, if sound, wins much quicker.
1. … Ne1 [threat: 2. … Rxg2+ 3. Kh1 Rg1#]
2. Rxe1 Re2+
3. Kh1 Rxe1
and it looks like the promotion of the d-pawn cannot be stopped, since the knight on f1, being pinned, cannot stop the advance, the bishop on g2 is tied down to the protection of the knight on g1, and the knight on e6 cannot stop the pawn either.
I don’t see any improvement for White in this line.
Not entirely sure on this one. Two approaches look promising. The 1st one looks like it will win eventually, but the 2nd, if sound, wins much quicker.
Try #1:
1. … d2
2. Nxd2 [after 2. Rd1, 2. … Ne1 is deadly]
2. … Rxd2+
3. Kh1 Ne3
4. Bf3 Rxb2
Material is even, but the advanced c-pawn and the favorable position of the Black pieces favors Black in this endgame.
However, 1. … Ne1 immediately, if sound, wins much quicker.
1. … Ne1 [threat: 2. … Rxg2+ 3. Kh1 Rg1#]
2. Rxe1 Re2+
3. Kh1 Rxe1
and it looks like the promotion of the d-pawn cannot be stopped, since the knight on f1, being pinned, cannot stop the advance, the bishop on g2 is tied down to the protection of the knight on g1, and the knight on e6 cannot stop the pawn either.
I don’t see any improvement for White in this line.
Ah, I see I missed Stef’s suggestion of 3. Nc5!, after which the White bishop can check with Be5+, giving the White king time to protect the knight on f1, and unpin himself, by moving Kg2. I agree that this is the strongest line for both sides.