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Depends on how much team Rybka wants to pay team Zappa. LOL.
Depends on how much team Rybka wants to pay team Zappa. LOL.
Rybka is going to KRUSH whimpy Zappa!
It will be more instructive to see how Rybka and Zappa stack up against each other on any of the many chess engine ratings boards available on the web. See how they do after 400+ games are played, these 10 game contests are fun to watch but prove nothing.
Maybe Rybka needs more time? Or maybe is better in blitz?
But in this format, I see Zappa runing the show. In these games, they had lot of exchanges: queen for two rocks.
Zappa beats Rybka any time with Q vs R+R or with R+R vs Q.
Both machines showed some questionable endgame play.
I never seen anyone beat Rybka. Im waiting for the day we can a chess program that can play perfect. That will be fun!
Im waiting for the day we can a chess program that can play perfect. That will be fun!
I don’t think so! This will be really BAD for Chess! Almost all games will be draw (~97%). Is that FUN???
“It will be more instructive to see how Rybka and Zappa stack up against each other on any of the many chess engine ratings boards available on the web. See how they do after 400+ games are played, these 10 game contests are fun to watch but prove nothing.”
Those 400+ games is/will NOT be played with the same opening books programs play against each other at the match. Therefore they do not represent the real relative strength. Chess playing systems consist of many parts, not just the engine. These parts include the hardware (in case of Hydra, Deep Thought and Deep Blue this factor is very important), the opening book, the engine, and the Nalimov endgame tablebases. It is a known fact that Rybka leads by a strong margin at all the engine rating boards. But in fact it is not stronger than Zappa as the match result will show ( at most equality for Rybka).
I would like to congratulate Erdogan Gunes for his excellent opening book preperation for Zappa. He definitely took Rybka out of the water.
Extra tuned match openings, even more if prepared for a specific oppponent, are irrelevant for the normal customer/user. Also, these books will usually, and logically NOT be available for the public. That is why the rating list rankings represent the real relative strengths of the engines much better. Normal generic, not engine specific books are used there, or sets of preselected variations.
Often, books with some engine tuning are released with engines each, but those are not identical to the expert’s books for important events like that, for obvious reasons.
Also, note that in the Mexico match computers with 8 CPU cores are used, which is far from representative for a “casual” hardware environment at home (also not in the next one or two years, yet).
These matches are computer chess sport events and great showcases to display the current level, but not reliable info sources about which engine is better or worse. Main factor which is missing is a big number of games as someone else mentioned above. That is correct.
Nevertheless, it is a great match which receives positive reactions by the fans and kibitzers! I am happy to see that it gets at least some coverage on chess blogs, and as I hope, also in other media (even if it would be a footnote to the World Championship reports only). I want the world to see that computer chess hasn’t stopped after 1997 but has made big progress, and that new names rule the scene (while others may be preparing big comebacks). It remains to be exiting! 🙂