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1.Nh6+ Kh8
2.Rxf8+ Bxf8
3.Qxf6+ Bg7 (Rg7, 4.Qxf8+)
4.Qd8+ Bf8
5.Rxf8+ Kg7
6.Rg8+ Kxh6
7.Qh4++
Bernatchez
Bernatchez, in your analysis,
after
1.Nh6+ Kh8 2.Rxf8+ Black takes with the Queen, 2…Qxf8.
Maybe
1.Nd6+ Kh8 2.Rxf8+ Bxf8 3.Qxf6+ wins, for if 3…Bg7 4.Qd8+ Bf8 5.Qxf8 mate.
Best regards,
Kamalakanta
I disagree with the first post. 1. Nh6+ Kh8 2. R:f8+ Q:f8 looks to me like it holds, and Black remains a piece up.
I think the right idea is 1. Nd6+! Black must still play 1…. Kh8 2. R:f8+ B:f8 3. Q:f6+ and
A.
3…… Bg7
4. Qd8+ Bf8
5. R:f8+ Kg7
6. Qf6#
B.
3…… Rg7
4. Nf7+ Kg8
5. Nh6+ Kh8
6. Q:f8+ Q:f8
7. R:f8+ Rg8
8. R:g8#
No, Black defeats that idea by recapturing with the queen on move two. I can’t find a way to get 1.Nh6+ to work. Also, I can’t figure out what else might be good, so I’ll leave it to the next poster.
best?
1.Nh6+ Kh8
2.Qg8+ RxQ
3.RxR++
It seems Bernatchez overlooked 2…Qxf8. The double check with 1. Nh6+ a la the famous smoothered mate is tempting but fails. Better is 1. Nd6+ (blocking the BQ from f8) and Bernatchez’ analysis works.
1. Nd6+ Kh8
2. Rxf8+ Bxf8
3. Qxf6+ Bg7
(3… Rxg7 4. Qxf8+ Rg8 5. Nf7#)
4. Qd8+ Bf8
5. Qxf8#
And,
1… Rf7
2. Rxf8+ Bxf8
(2… Kxf8 3. Qxf7#)
3. Qxf7+ Kh8
4. Qxf8+ Ng8
5. Nf7#
It seems Bernatchez overlooked 2…Qxf8. 1. Nh6 a la the famous smoothered mate is tempting but fails.
Better is 1. Nd6+, blocking the BQ from f8, and mates in all variations.
1… Kh8
2. Rxf8+ Bxf8
3. Qxf6+ Bg7
(3… Rg7 4. Qxf8+ Rg8 5. Nf7#)
4. Qd8+ Bf8
5. Qxf8#
And,
1… Rf7
2. Rxf8+ Bxf8
(2… Kxf8 3. Qxf7#)
3. Qxf7+ Kh8
4. Qxf8+ Ng8
5. Nf7#
Tadman,
Your solution fails to 3… Nxg8.
1. Nd6+! looks like a winner to me.
1. Nd6+ is best because it breaks communication bewteen Q and Rf8.
1…Raf7 2. Qxf7+ Kh8 3. Rxf8+ etc. or
1…Kh8 2. Rxf8+ Bxf8 3. Qxf6+ Bg7
4. Qd8+ Bf8 5.Qxf8++
1. Nd6 wins by breaking communication between Q and Rf8:
1…. Rf7
2. Qxf7+ Kh8
3. Rxf8+ Bxf8
4. Qxf8+ OR:
1…. Kh8
2. Rxf8+ Bxf8
3. Qxf6+ Bg7
4. Qd8+ Bf8
5. Qxf8++
best move? 1. Nd6+ and black’s defense collapses with any move.
I looked at this, hoping to find some way to get to a smothered mate via Nf7#. But it doesn’t work. Whatever White does, he has to make it forced as Black will take decisive use of any move that gives him leeway. But there is a way for White to force the mate:
1.Nd6+! Kh8
2.Rxf8+ Bxf8
3.Qxf6+ Bg7
4.Qd8+ Bf8
5.Qxf8#
1.Nd6+ Raf7 (if 1… Kh8 Rxf8+)
2.Qxf7+ !!
1-0
I looked at this, hoping to find some way to get to a smothered mate via Nf7#. But it doesn’t work. Whatever White does, he has to make it forced as Black will take decisive use of any move that gives him leeway. But there is a way for White to force the mate:
1.Nd6+! Kh8
2.Rxf8+ Bxf8
3.Qxf6+ Bg7
4.Qd8+ Bf8
5.Qxf8#
The smothered mate motif is the first thing I think of here, but this fails due to the knight at f6 and rook at a7. Also, black threatens to simply liquidate pieces left and right with Rc8, Raf7 etc. One might try blocking the black queen’s line of protection of f8 and then diverting the bishop from protecting f6:
1. Nd6 Kh8
2. Rf8 Bf8
3. Qf6 Rg7
4. Qf8 Rg8
5. Nf7#
and if,
3. …..Bg7
4. Qd8 Bf8
5. Qf8#
The main problem of 1. Nh6+ is the black Queen on the a3 – f8 diagonal. So, we better should keep away
the black Queen from f8.
We don’t need the double check with Nh6, Nd6+ is the winner.
1. Nd6+ Kh8
2. RxR+ BxR
3. Qf6+
3. … Bg7
4. Qc8+
3. … Rg7
4. QxB+ Rg8
5. Nf7#
Greetings
Markus
Mark J. Finegold is correct. To prevent the Black Queen from coming in:
1. Ne6+ Kh8
2. Rxf8+ Bxf8
3. Nf7+
if 3. … Kg7, 4. Qxf6#
3. … Kg8
4. Nh6+
now if 4. … Kg7, 5 Qxf6#
if 4. … Kh8, 5. Qg8#
Nd6+ solves the problem with Queen recapture…
try
1.Qxf6 Bxf6
2.Rg1+ Bg7
3.Nh6+ h8
4.Rf8+ Bf8
5.Rg8
Trefor5D
1.Nd6+ Kh8
2.Rxf8+ Bxf8
3.Qxf6+ Rg7
4.Qxf8+ Rg8
5.Nf7 mate
1.Nd6+ Kh8
2.Rxf8+ Bxf8
3.Qxf6+ Bg7
4.Qd8+ Bf8
5.Qxf8 mate
1.Nd6+ Kh8
2.Rxf8+ Bxf8
3.Qxf6+ Kg8
4.Qxf8 mate
David Kern
1. Nd6+ to block Queen’s way
1. … Kh8
2. Rxf8+ Bxf8
3. Qxf6+ Bg7 (Rg7 4. Qxf8+,Rg8 5.Nf7#)
4. Qd8+ Bf8
5. Qcf8#
The queen must be blocked out.
1 N-D6 DIS CH…. K-H8
2 RxF8 CH …. BxF8
3 QxF6 CH …. if R-g7,Qxf8 mate
if B-G7,Q-d8 ch,
B-F8,Qxf8
mate
1.Nh6+ Kh8
and now maybe
2.Rxf6 (!/?)
If 2.- Bxf6?
3.Qg8+ and 4.Rxg8 mate.
If 2.- Qb2+
3.Kg1 and no worry (?)
Haven’t looked to other black moves yet, so this is probably wrong!
Magnusch
Nh6+ DOUBLE CHECK K MOVES H8 RXR= BXR QG8 MATE