I believe that the Bxe4 line wins a whole piece. But more importantly, it is a completely forcing line that ends with a winning advantage. It’s easy to calculate, therefore I would play that OTB.
What Vohaul said is true, but I would still prefer to play White at the end, because Q + R cooperation is better than Q + B, and in the worst case White can force the draw easy with a perpetual… On the other hand, if he prefers Black at the end, why is he saying that 1.Qf3? is such a bad move if gives White a draw?
basically forces white to return the exchange (3. Rxf2 gxf2 4. Qxf2)because his king is frozen in place and in grave danger.
while 2. — Bxg3 3. Qe2
leaves white up a rook for a (opposite) bishop and pawn.
In both lines white is a little better, (black’s a4 pawn is a problem and getting a rook on the open b file looks to be the best way forward), but I don’t think this is what Susan wanted us to find.
if vohaul analysis is correct, then what about 1. Rb2 Bd4 2. Re2 f5 3. Bx4e fxe4 4. Rxf4 (this is as far as I can go in my head!), with white about to grab an additional (e4) pawn after B for N exchange?
Is it 1. Bxe4 with 2. Rxb7 and 3. Qc8+?
I concur with Tom.
I disagree. Bxe4 wins you only the quality. Qf3 wins a piece.
@anonym … 1.qf3? ng3+!! and white will struggle to survive this after
2.hxg3 fxg3 … and 3.rxf2 looks almost forced to me …
1.bxe4 is clearly a better choice imho
Hi all chess lover!
looks 5 min and can only see Be4 Qe4 Rb7! Rb7 Qc8 and Qb7,Q and rook too Q,bichop.
Have nice dayes knightonranden.
1.Bxe4 2.Rxb7 3.Qc8+ and White is an exchange up.
I, too, have a puzzle on my blog…
1. Qf3 Nd2 will get Black a rook for 2 pieces.
I believe that the Bxe4 line wins a whole piece. But more importantly, it is a completely forcing line that ends with a winning advantage. It’s easy to calculate, therefore I would play that OTB.
Bxe4 Qxe4, Qd7 seems really strong
this is a really interesting one – simple at a first glance – but really hard to deal with! things are not that easy, they look like!
1.bxe4 …
(1.qf3? Ng3+! 2.hxg3 fxg3 3.rxf2 forced 3… gxf2 4.qxf2= )
1…qxe4
2.rxb7 …
(2.qd7? f3!)
2…rxb7
3.qc8+ kg7
4.qxb7 f3!
5.qb2+ bd4
6.gxf3 … the only move imho.
(e.g. 6.qd2? f2! 7.qd1 bb6! threatening 8… ba5! 9.qxa5? qxc4 and black is winning)
6…qd3
7.qc1 bc5
with a VERY SMALL edge for white, if at all (to be honest – i’d prefer to play black here)
What Vohaul said is true, but I would still prefer to play White at the end, because Q + R cooperation is better than Q + B, and in the worst case White can force the draw easy with a perpetual…
On the other hand, if he prefers Black at the end, why is he saying that 1.Qf3? is such a bad move if gives White a draw?
1. Qf3 Ng3+
2. hxg3 fxg3
basically forces white to return the exchange (3. Rxf2 gxf2 4. Qxf2)because his king is frozen in place and in grave danger.
while 2. — Bxg3 3. Qe2
leaves white up a rook for a (opposite) bishop and pawn.
In both lines white is a little better, (black’s a4 pawn is a problem and getting a rook on the open b file looks to be the best way forward), but I don’t think this is what Susan wanted us to find.
bxe4
why should the queen take the bishop
why not bf3
Hi! I see something. What about 1.Bxe4 Qx4 2.Qd7? there might be something there.
Hi! I see something. What about 1.Bxe4 Qx4 2.Qd7? there might be something there.
if vohaul analysis is correct, then what about 1. Rb2 Bd4 2. Re2 f5 3. Bx4e fxe4 4. Rxf4 (this is as far as I can go in my head!), with white about to grab an additional (e4) pawn after B for N exchange?
Rb2 then Ng3+ and the drawish line already talked about appears. Bxe4 is the best line
this 1.rb2 idea is very nice, but i’m afraid that it can be refuted…
1.rb2 bd4!
[by the way 1…qe5?! – my very first idea on 1.rb2 – is setting up a nice trap, but – bad luck – nothing more … if now
2.rxb7 with the “idea” to gain an exchange advantage…
(much better is 2.rbxf2! and the chances are equal)
2…rxb7
3.qc8+ kg7
4.qxb7 … success! white is an exchange up, unfortunately black has
4…ng3+
5.hxg3 qh5 mate :)]
2.re2 be3
3.g3 bc8
4.qh4 rb3
with a winning position for black