White cannot move with Rc8+ since it will be meet with Rf8…
The key move will be knight move 1. Nf6 threatening mate by rook in h7 1. …. Rf6 2. Qh4 & white wins since there is no defense in both h7 & rook in f6!!!
theres other variations but there no defense to Nf6+.. clearly all black can do is throw material away until he gets mated.. i will say the title really caused me to get thrown off.. I was looking for a particular path for the queen instead of looking for the correct move.. sometimes these titles are as hard to overcome as the problem itself..
Black is left with two logical options. Option A 1… Ra8xc8 or Option B 1…Rf2-c8.
If option A, then; 2. Rxc8+ that will lead to mate in three (3) more moves If option B, then 2. Qb7!! This is a complete control of the 7th rank and black doesnt have option to save the pawn in h7 and leads to eventual mate.
Rc8+ is a temptation but chess isn’t checkers fortunately. Rc8 fails to Rf8. However, Nf6 threatening mate, exposes the swiss-cheese-like nature of blacks position. After the forced capture on f6 with the rook, Qh4 is a double attack on h7 and f6, inevitably invading on either square with check and mating in only a few moves.The white queen and rook have no useful squares for defense.
I miss the counter 1…..Qe8 which will be the neutralizing move for black.
the correct solution indeed is 1. Nf6. This leaves black no option but to capture with 1…..Rxf6. Then 2. Qh4! black will not have options to save the game.
1.Rc8+ Rxc8 2.Qxc8+ Qe8 3.Qxe8+ Rf8 4.Qxf8#
Mate in Four moves
1. Qc8+ Rf8 (only move)
2. Qb7
White cannot successfully defend against Rxh7 followed by Qg7/
1. Rc8 Qe8
2. Rxe8 Rxe8
3. Qxd1 gxh5
4. Qxb3
@ vibavi: it seems you forgot the Queen defence at Qe8!…
ched cabe — i’m just thinking for another variation.. still not find it.
White cannot move with Rc8+ since it will be meet with Rf8…
The key move will be knight move
1. Nf6 threatening mate by rook in h7
1. …. Rf6
2. Qh4 & white wins since there is no defense in both h7 & rook in f6!!!
1. Nf6 Rf6
2. Qh4 h5
3. Qf6+ Kg8
4. Qg7#
1.) Rc8+ – if Rxc8?? then forced mate at succeeding play…(Qxc8)
2.) Rc8+! – if black take cover his queen at Qe8… the right move for white is Qd7! for a win but not a mate…
-ched cabe-
yeah 1 Rc8+ Rf8 i think you’re little ‘mate in four’ doesn’t quite work there 😀
yeah 1 Rc8+ Rf8 i think you’re little ‘mate in four’ doesn’t quite work there 😀
Nf6 Rxf6
Qh4 Qd7
Rxd7 Rf7
Rxf7 f5
Qf6+ Kg8
Qg7++
theres other variations but there no defense to Nf6+.. clearly all black can do is throw material away until he gets mated.. i will say the title really caused me to get thrown off.. I was looking for a particular path for the queen instead of looking for the correct move.. sometimes these titles are as hard to overcome as the problem itself..
Good morning from Germany:
1. Nf6 Rxf6 2. Qh4
(1. Rc8+ ? Rff8)
Nf6 should win (threatens mate)
R+N QR4; h5 QxR+ etc,
not rc8+ but qc8+!
han
No vibavi, Rc8 Rf8 and no mate, Qc8 Rf8, Qb7 and over
1.Nf6! Threatening mate in one 1….Rxf6 (1….Rxg2+ ? 2.Qxg2) 2.Qh4! and Black cannot parry all mating thrats
@vibavi: What if 1. …Rf8?
1.Qc8+! forces 1…. Rf8 (ohterwise mate in 3)
2.Qb7! and there is no defense on the 7th rank.
Very nice.
Wrong move Rc8+ because black play Rf8! and not Rxc8.
Best moove is Nf6!
First we notice that the temptating Rc8+ fails to Rf8, this is only an exchange of pieces.
Plan must be changed totally, and it has to be a knight sack freeing h-line:
1. Nf6 Rxf6 (otherwise Rxh7#)
2. Qh4!
with double threat Qxh7# and Qxf6+ followed by mate.
Only delay is:
2. … Rf7
3. Rxf7 Qd7 etc.
1. Nf6 Rxf6
2. Qh4 h5
3. Qxf6 Kg8
4. Qg7#
1. … Rxg2
2. Qxg2 and afterwards
Rxh7#
1.Nf6 Rxf6 2.Qh4 h5 3.Qxf6+ Kg8 4.Qg7#.
The correct sequence of moves would be;
1.Qc8+!
Black is left with two logical options.
Option A 1… Ra8xc8 or
Option B 1…Rf2-c8.
If option A, then;
2. Rxc8+ that will lead to mate in three (3) more moves
If option B, then
2. Qb7!! This is a complete control of the 7th rank and black doesnt have option to save the pawn in h7 and leads to eventual mate.
Thanks,
Henry
1.Rc8+ Rf8! After that?
1. Nf6
–br
1. Nf6 Rxf6
2. Qh4 or
1. … Ra7
2. Qc8+
will lead to a quick mate. greets, jan
Rc8+ Rf8 ?
1.Qc8+ Rf8 2.Nf6
I had to think for some time as the position is not so simple.
1. Nf6 Rxf6
2. Qh4! threatening mate on h7.
1. Nf6+! Rxf6
2. Qh4!
1.Nf6 followed by Rxh7 +-
@vibavi – What about 1Rc8+ Rf8…? Surely that makes it more complicated?
Against 1)Rc8, Df8 offcourse
vibavi is wrong: 1.Rc8+ Rff8 defending the 8th rank
1.Qc8+ Rf8
2.Nf6 Raxc8
3.Rxh7#
– High skill from MR KO (Malaysian)
Rc8+ is a temptation but chess isn’t checkers fortunately. Rc8 fails to Rf8. However, Nf6 threatening mate, exposes the swiss-cheese-like nature of blacks position. After the forced capture on f6 with the rook, Qh4 is a double attack on h7 and f6, inevitably invading on either square with check and mating in only a few moves.The white queen and rook have no useful squares for defense.
With regards to the move 1.Qc8+,
I miss the counter 1…..Qe8 which will be the neutralizing move for black.
the correct solution indeed is 1. Nf6. This leaves black no option but to capture with 1…..Rxf6. Then 2. Qh4! black will not have options to save the game.
Thanks,
Henry
1. Nf6 is the only move which leads to a win for White. 1…Rxf6 then 2. Qh4 with mate to come soon.
Best wishes,
Susan
Emm…
After Qc8, black just plays Qe8-g8 killing all threats
I will just add that the option of 1.Qc8 followed by 2.Qb7 doesn’t work because black can interpose the queen at e8 instead of using the rook at f8:
1. Qb8 Qe8!
And, now, Qb7 to attack h7 and g7 fails to Qg8.