By the way, in my earlier post, I meant: 1. c2 Nf5, RxN leads to nothing and Bxd5 is met with Qxd5, the threat of Rxf8 stopped by N on f5. Wrong pieces and wrong squares, ugh, but that is what I was thinking.
I cannot come up with anything convincing after 1. Rf6. Perhaps I need a board, but then they might frown on that in a tournament…
We are in agreement. 1. Rf6 does not seem to accomplish much. When I said “I cannot come up with anything convincing after 1. Rf6.” I meant: I cannot come up with anything convincing FOR WHITE after 1. Rf6.
White is lost,
1.Bxd5 Be6
2.Rxf8 Qxf8
3.Qxg6 Qg7
4.QxQ KxQ
5.Bxa8 Nxc2
6.Rb1 Bxa2 -+
and if,
1.Rxf8 Qxf8
2.Qxg6 Qg7 -+ transposes as above.
Pharaoh
Oh yes,
So, from the above analysis it comes out that,
1.c3! is the move
1….Nc2
2.Bxd5 Be6
3.Bxe6 Rxe6
[3….Nxe6 4.Qxe6 Ng7 5.Rc2 +-]
4.Rh2 Nxa1
5.Qh8+ and White wins.
Pharaoh
1. R X f8 Q X f8
2. B X d5
Pharaoh,
1. c2 Ne6 threatening Rh7
2. ?
or
1. c2 Nf5 (the queen must move; BxN leads to nothing; Bxe6 Qxe6; what?)
In either case, Black seems to be up a piece for a pawn with better development and a (now) safer king.
I think c2 is too slow.
I believe there is something for White.
How does Black meet Rf6?
1. Rf6!(?)
Btw, anon’s solution, Rxf8 Qxf8, Bxd5 Be6, does not seem to work. The Bishop and Queen must be traded, black is up a piece.
Kerry
1. Rxf8 Qxf8
2. Bxd5 Be6
3. Qxg6 Qg7
4. Qxg7 Kxg7
5. Bxa8
1. Rxf8 Qxf8
2. Bxd5 Be6
3. Qxg6 Qg7
4. Qxg7 Kxg7
5. Bxa8
and then
5. … Nxc2
6. Rb1 Bxa2
and the rook is lost.
After more thorough analysis it seems that White is lost in all variations.
Pharaoh
By the way, in my earlier post, I meant: 1. c2 Nf5, RxN leads to nothing and Bxd5 is met with Qxd5, the threat of Rxf8 stopped by N on f5. Wrong pieces and wrong squares, ugh, but that is what I was thinking.
I cannot come up with anything convincing after 1. Rf6. Perhaps I need a board, but then they might frown on that in a tournament…
I am with Pharaoh.
I would take black here. If White has something, I cannot find it and would like to have it proven to me.
I cannot come up with anything convincing after 1. Rf6.
Kerry, I’m not sure I’m up to date with your current assessment of this (difficult!) position, but after 1.Rf8 Black has 1…Bb7 or 1…Rxe5.
You do say later:
I would take black here. If White has something, I cannot find it and would like to have it proven to me.
… which may or may not be right, but which matches my thinking 🙂
What would be wrong with the simple 1.Bxd5+ Be6 (if the Queen takes it would lead to mate.) 2.Bxa8 winning the exchange?
What would be wrong with the simple 1.Bxd5+ Be6 (if the Queen takes it would lead to mate.) 2.Bxa8 winning the exchange?
Black simply recaptures 2…Qxa8 and his attack rages on. His numerous threats include 3…Nf5, 3…Nf3+, 3…Bd5, and 3…Rh7.
Anon @ 4:40,
We are in agreement. 1. Rf6 does not seem to accomplish much. When I said “I cannot come up with anything convincing after 1. Rf6.” I meant: I cannot come up with anything convincing FOR WHITE after 1. Rf6.
Hence my choice of black.