I like 1. Rxe5 to start, but Black can do better than 1. … Qb4 or … Be5 with 1. … Be6, for instance:
2. Qh7+ Kf8 3. Qxg7+ Kxg7 (3. … Nxg7 4. Rh8#) 4. Rxe6+ axb2 (maybe best, as other options allow White’s bishop to escape) 5. Rxe7
White is up the exchange with an interesting endgame ahead. There are many paths after 5. Rxe7, but I think White should win this.Possibly: 5. … Nd6 6. exf5 Nxf5 7. Rd7 Ne3 8. Rg1 Rxc2 9. Rg3 Re2 10. g6 and so forth.
“How did everybody wander off track here? jcheyne’s solution is right.”
What I like most about chess is exploring, even in a fantastic way, different ideas, even if they don’t turn out to be correct.
I like the interaction of the pieces, and exploring my imagination!
The solution posted by “Anonymous” is so far the best: “1.Rxe5 Be6 2.Qh7+ Kf8 3.Qxg7+ Kxg7 4.Rxe6+ ab 5.Rxe7 and white stands better”
But I still like to explore other possibilities. Nothing to lose! Just having fun! And in the process sometimes you discover other tactical motifs, mating patterns., etc.
And even when someone shows me the refutation to a line I post, this is good. It is the didactic process in chess. You find this dynamic even among grandmasters.
In Kasparov’s books, he will often give a 5 or 6 move analysis variation and evaluation by another grandmaster, and refute it by finding one extra move that the other master did not see.
Sorry for the long version, but that is how we deviated: looking for the ultimate truth in the position. I’m still looking at my lines, by the way.
1. Rxe5 Qb4 2.Qh8!+-
1. Re5 Be5 2. Qh8 Bh8 3. Rh8#
I like 1. Rxe5 to start, but Black can do better than 1. … Qb4 or … Be5 with 1. … Be6, for instance:
2. Qh7+ Kf8
3. Qxg7+ Kxg7 (3. … Nxg7 4. Rh8#)
4. Rxe6+ axb2 (maybe best, as other options allow White’s bishop to escape)
5. Rxe7
White is up the exchange with an interesting endgame ahead. There are many paths after 5. Rxe7, but I think White should win this.Possibly:
5. … Nd6
6. exf5 Nxf5
7. Rd7 Ne3
8. Rg1 Rxc2
9. Rg3 Re2
10. g6 and so forth.
@jcheyne
1. Rxe5 Be6 2. Rxe6+-
To jcheyne :
1.Rxe5 Be6
2.Rxe6? fxe6
3.Qh8 Bxh8
4.Rxh8 Kf7
5.Rh7 Ng7 -+
Pharaoh
So, what after
1.Rxe5 Be6
which seems to be black’s best defence?
Oops, sorry jcheyne gave the answer above.
How about 1.Rxe5 Be6 2. exf5 (with the idea of fxe6) Qb4 3. Rxb5! Qxb5 4. Qh8+ Bxh8 5. Rxh8#?
Kamalakanta
To Kamalakanta :
1.Rxe5 Be6
2.exf5 axb2
3.fxe6 Kf8! and black is fine.
Ok, so we try something else…How about 1.Rxd7 Qxd7 2. Bxe5 (a little demolition)? if 2…Bxe5 3.Qxe5 Ng7 4.Qh2!,
and if 2….f6 then 3. Qh7+ Kf8 4. gxf6 winning?
Kamalakanta
1.Rxe5 Be6
2.Qh7+ Kf8
3.Qxg7+ Kxg7
4.Rxe6+ ab
5.Rxe7 and white stands better
To Kamalakanta :
and if 2….f6 then 3. Qh7+ Kf8 4. gxf6 winning?
2…f6
3.Qh7+ Kf7!
4.gxf6 Nxf6
5.Bxf6 Kxf6 and black is fine.
How did everybody wander off track here? jcheyne’s solution is right.
Anonymous said…
“How did everybody wander off track here? jcheyne’s solution is right.”
What I like most about chess is exploring, even in a fantastic way, different ideas, even if they don’t turn out to be correct.
I like the interaction of the pieces, and exploring my imagination!
The solution posted by “Anonymous” is so far the best:
“1.Rxe5 Be6
2.Qh7+ Kf8
3.Qxg7+ Kxg7
4.Rxe6+ ab
5.Rxe7 and white stands better”
But I still like to explore other possibilities. Nothing to lose! Just having fun! And in the process sometimes you discover other tactical motifs, mating patterns., etc.
And even when someone shows me the refutation to a line I post, this is good. It is the didactic process in chess. You find this dynamic even among grandmasters.
In Kasparov’s books, he will often give a 5 or 6 move analysis variation and evaluation by another grandmaster, and refute it by finding one extra move that the other master did not see.
Sorry for the long version, but that is how we deviated: looking for the ultimate truth in the position. I’m still looking at my lines, by the way.
Kamalakanta
Agree with Kamalakanta’s comments.
Chess is to explore and not just see the solution.