But Black doesn’t have to cooperate by taking the bishop on the 1st move, or by taking the rook on the second move. Then the position is not all that simple.
After 1. Bxe6 fxe6 2. Rxg6+ Black can play either 2. … Kh8? or 2. … Kf7.
This one is far from obvious and requires good practice.
1.Bxe6! is the principled try, right ?!
Black has many many options
I)1…fxe6 2.Rxg6+ Kh7 3.Rg4 Qe7/a3 4.Be5! Cute 🙂 II)1…Qe7 2.Rxg6+ Kh8 3.Be5+ f6 4.Rxf6!! Rxf6 5.Qf5! Rf8 and Black has nothing to “untie” himself. The rook is pinned, the white squares under control, the other rook or the king cannot move and where can the queen go alone, if allowed to. So this position should win for White.
The best defensive tries should be either 1…Kg7! or 1…Kh8!
White has 2 bishops for a rook.Black K looks safe and secure whereas white K is in the open.But looks are deceptive.White pieces are coordinating excellently. 1. Bxe6 1… fxe6 2. Rxg6+ 1… Kh8 2. Be5+ f6 3. Qc7 Qh4 4. Bd6 and wins exchange with a clear piece up.
1. B X e6 Black has no defense. If he captures the Bishop f X e6 2. R X g6+ , Kf7 (h X Rg6 would lose immediately to Q X g6, Kh8 and Be5#) 3. Rh8 , Black loses one more pawn and both his rooks exposing his King
This is far from clear to me. The only likely-looking, as also many others have advocated, is: 1. Bxe6 fxe6 2. Rxg6 Kf7 Of course black will use the escape field on f7. We must not dream that he should take rook with h-pawn.
But how does this continue? The bestlooking idea I have seen so far is 3. Rg4 Qe7 mentioned by a couple of players.
Now white has the obvious Qxh7+, but a major problem will be that black king escapes first to e8, then to d7 behind the back of his queen on e7. And Rg7 is met by Rf7! I havn’t seen a good answer how this is handled.
This puzzle is very good. Puzzle suppose to be this way. Seems that Black best defensive move is neutralize White idea. 1.Bxe6 fxe6 2.Rxg6+ Kf7 is Black best defense. 3.Rg4 Qe7 4.Qxh7+ Ke8 look leads White to no where. I want to suggests 3.Rh3 maybe the correct one. Now White threats is Rxh2, Qxh2, Qc6
It’s clear that white in trouble after 1. Bxe6 fxe6 2. Rxg6+ Kf7 3. Rg4 Qe7 4. Qxh7+ Ke8 and I think 5. Rg7 is not correct Because 5. ..Rf7 My suggestions is 1. Bxe6 fxe6 2. Rxg6+ Kf7 3. Rh6 threaten Rxh7, Qxh7 and Qc6. I am seeing a good position for White but I’m not so sure
The puzzle seems still not to be solved. I start to doubt that 1. Bxe6 is the right solution at all. It is puzzle-like, and an obvious motive, but still doesn’t have to be right.
What about the natural: 1. Be5 This strengthens the threat Bxe6, because Kf7 now may be answered with Rg7. So it seems that black shall have to prevent Bxe6, but how? And there are other threats as well…
I like this puzzle very much. Very challenging. I even put it as my computer’s screen saver so I can stare at it anytime. I think the best solution is 1.Bxe6 fxe6 2.Rxg6+ Kf7 3.Rg4 Qe7 4.Be5!! the star move. Threatening Rg7+ winning the Queen Now every Black move cost material Glad to finally see a clear winning position
Dear pht, 1Be5 Qe7 gives black enough time for defense. Another interesting move is 1 Bxe6 Qe7 Now 2. Be5+ fails against 2…. f6. better seems to be 2. Bd6 Bxd6 2…. Qb7 3Be5+ wins. 3. Rh6 wins.
Bxe6
Sometimes positions just jump out and move themselves, but I had to check some options after 1. Bxe6.
Here’s the line that jumped:
1. … fxe6 2. Rxg6+ hxg6 3. Qxg6+ Kh8 4. Be5+ Rf6 5. Bxf6#
Backing up, Black’s last non-forced move was 2. … hxg6, so instead:
2. … Kf7 3. Rg4 (with Qxh7+ coming) Qxg4 4. fxg4 Kg8 and something like 5. Qc6 with a big advantage.
2. … Kh8 3. Be5+ Rf6 4. Bxf6#
The better try for Black:
1. … Kh8 2. Be5+ f6 3. Qc7 Qh4 (3. … fxe5 4. Qxe5+ and mate next) 4. Bd6 Qh6 (4. … Rfb8 5. Qf7 Rg8 6. Rg4 Qh6 7. Qxf6+ Qg7 8. Be5 Qxf6 [8. … Ra7 9. Qxg6!] 9. Bxf6+ Rg7 10. Rd4 with Rd7 coming) 5. Bxf8 Qxf8 5. Rc1 with a big advantage.
Another try:
1. … Qe7 2. Rxg6+ Kh8 3. Bd6 hxg6 (3. … Qxd6 4. Rh6 with mate following) 4. Bxe7 Kg7 (4. … Re8 5. Bf6+ Kh7 6. Qe4 with mate around the corner) 5. Qc3 with a huge advantage.
There is no quick knockout here, unless Black cooperates by taking everything. Then it’s short and bloody.
1. Bxe6 fxe6
2. Rxg6+ hxg6
3. Qxg6+ Kh8
4. Be5+ Rf6
5. Bxf6#
But Black doesn’t have to cooperate by taking the bishop on the 1st move, or by taking the rook on the second move. Then the position is not all that simple.
After
1. Bxe6 fxe6
2. Rxg6+
Black can play either 2. … Kh8? or 2. … Kf7.
2. … Kh8?
3. Be5+ Rf6
4. Bxf6#
2. … Kf7
3. Rg4
and now White is threatening both 4. Rxb4 and
4. Qxh7+ Ke8
(4. .. Kf6 5. Rg6+ Kf5 6. Qh5#)
5. Rg7 a4
6. Qh5+)
I don’t see a good way to meet both threats.
Black can try 1. … Kh8. Then, although White maintains a strong attack, there is no quick resolution that I can find.
1. … Kh8
2. Be5+ f6
3. Qc7
3. Qc7 looks strong, as even if Black doesn’t misplay
3. … fxe5
4. Qxe5+ Rf6
5. Qxf6#
it is hard to find a defence to 4. Bf7, threatening 5. Bxf6#. Black could try 3. … Qh4.
3. .. Qh4
4. Bd6 Rfe8
5. Qf7
but White looks to win here.
This one is far from obvious and requires good practice.
1.Bxe6! is the principled try, right ?!
Black has many many options
I)1…fxe6 2.Rxg6+ Kh7 3.Rg4 Qe7/a3 4.Be5! Cute 🙂
II)1…Qe7 2.Rxg6+ Kh8 3.Be5+ f6 4.Rxf6!! Rxf6 5.Qf5! Rf8 and Black has nothing to “untie” himself. The rook is pinned, the white squares under control, the other rook or the king cannot move and where can the queen go alone, if allowed to. So this position should win for White.
The best defensive tries should be either 1…Kg7! or 1…Kh8!
Sacfest?
1. Bxe6 fxe
2. Rxg6+ hxg (… Kh8 3. Be5#)
3, Qxg6+ Kh8
4. Be5#
So Black has to decline the sacrifice at move 1. Anybody got a good defense?
Mark
White has 2 bishops for a rook.Black K looks safe and secure whereas white K is in the open.But looks are deceptive.White pieces are coordinating excellently.
1. Bxe6
1… fxe6 2. Rxg6+
1… Kh8 2. Be5+ f6 3. Qc7 Qh4 4. Bd6 and wins exchange with a clear piece up.
1. B X e6 Black has no defense. If he captures the Bishop f X e6 2. R X g6+ , Kf7 (h X Rg6 would lose immediately to Q X g6, Kh8 and Be5#) 3. Rh8 , Black loses one more pawn and both his rooks exposing his King
This is far from clear to me.
The only likely-looking, as also many others have advocated, is:
1. Bxe6 fxe6
2. Rxg6 Kf7
Of course black will use the escape field on f7. We must not dream that he should take rook with h-pawn.
But how does this continue?
The bestlooking idea I have seen so far is
3. Rg4 Qe7
mentioned by a couple of players.
Now white has the obvious Qxh7+, but a major problem will be that black king escapes first to e8, then to d7 behind the back of his queen on e7. And Rg7 is met by Rf7! I havn’t seen a good answer how this is handled.
The puzzle seems not to be solved yet.
This puzzle is very good. Puzzle suppose to be this way. Seems that Black best defensive move is neutralize White idea.
1.Bxe6 fxe6 2.Rxg6+ Kf7 is Black best defense.
3.Rg4 Qe7 4.Qxh7+ Ke8 look leads White to no where.
I want to suggests
3.Rh3 maybe the correct one.
Now White threats is Rxh2, Qxh2, Qc6
Dear pht:
The line you are asking about goes:
1. Bxe6 fxe6
2. Rxg6+ Kf7
3. Rg4 Qe7
4. Qxh7+ Ke8
(4. .. Kf6 5. Rf4+ Kg5 6. h4#)
5. Rg7 Qc5
6. Qg6+ Rf7
7. Qxf7#
Lucymarie
Dear pht:
I spoke to soon, and didn’t look at what happens after:
1. Bxe6 fxe6
2. Rxg6+ Kf7
3. Rg4 Qe7
4. Qxh7+ Ke8
5. Rg7
5. … Qf6
So, I have come to the
conclusion that 4. Be5 is the correct line:
1. Bxe6 fxe6
2. Rxg6+ Kf7
3. Rg4 Qe7
4. Be5 Ke8
5. Qc6+ Kd8
(5. .. Qd7 6.Qxa8+)
6. Rd4+
Lucymarie
It’s clear that white in trouble after
1. Bxe6 fxe6
2. Rxg6+ Kf7
3. Rg4 Qe7
4. Qxh7+ Ke8
and I think
5. Rg7 is not correct
Because
5. ..Rf7
My suggestions is
1. Bxe6 fxe6
2. Rxg6+ Kf7
3. Rh6
threaten Rxh7, Qxh7 and Qc6.
I am seeing a good position for White but I’m not so sure
The puzzle seems still not to be solved.
I start to doubt that 1. Bxe6 is the right solution at all. It is puzzle-like, and an obvious motive, but still doesn’t have to be right.
What about the natural:
1. Be5
This strengthens the threat Bxe6, because Kf7 now may be answered with Rg7. So it seems that black shall have to prevent Bxe6, but how? And there are other threats as well…
I like this puzzle very much. Very challenging. I even put it as my computer’s screen saver so I can stare at it anytime. I think the best solution is
1.Bxe6 fxe6
2.Rxg6+ Kf7
3.Rg4 Qe7
4.Be5!! the star move.
Threatening Rg7+ winning the Queen
Now every Black move cost material
Glad to finally see a clear winning position
Dear pht,
1Be5 Qe7 gives black enough time for defense.
Another interesting move is
1 Bxe6 Qe7
Now 2. Be5+ fails against 2…. f6.
better seems to be
2. Bd6 Bxd6
2…. Qb7 3Be5+ wins.
3. Rh6 wins.