Seems to be a ‘well known’ maneuver using black’s weak ground line starting with 1. Qg4. 1. -, Qd8? gives a nice short end after 2. Qxc8! so 1. -, Qb5 seems forced (regard that without Nf3 black could counter with Rxe2! here winning). 2. Qc4! (regard that black threated 2. -, Qxe2!), Qd7 (what else?) 3. Qc7!, Qa4 and now should the immediate 4. b3 win the game. Regard that 4. Qxa5? (which I wanted to play first) is bad as after 4. -, Qd7 5. Qc7, Qa4 6. b3 the defending move Qa8! gets possible.
Seems to be a ‘well known’ maneuver using black’s weak ground line starting with 1. Qg4. 1. -, Qd8? gives a nice short end after 2. Qxc8! so 1. -, Qb5 seems forced (regard that without Nf3 black could counter with Rxe2! here winning). 2. Qc4! (regard that black threated 2. -, Qxe2!), Qd7 (what else?) 3. Qc7!, Qa4
3…Qb5 4.a4 Qxa4 5.Re4 appears to lose a little more slowly, but that’s all.
Probably this game was made up by Torre, the ostensible loser, rather than played. It could be a variation on a game that was actually played. For evidence collected by Edward Winter, google “Adams v Torre a sham”. – Lambent
Seems to be a ‘well known’ maneuver using black’s weak ground line starting with 1. Qg4.
1. -, Qd8? gives a nice short end after 2. Qxc8! so 1. -, Qb5 seems forced (regard that without Nf3 black could counter with Rxe2! here winning).
2. Qc4! (regard that black threated 2. -, Qxe2!), Qd7 (what else?) 3. Qc7!, Qa4 and now should the immediate 4. b3 win the game.
Regard that 4. Qxa5? (which I wanted to play first) is bad as after 4. -, Qd7 5. Qc7, Qa4 6. b3 the defending move Qa8! gets possible.
Have I overseen anything?
Best wishes
Jochen
1. Qg4
1.Qg4! Qb5
2.Qc4 Qd7
3.Qc7 Qb5
[3…Qa4 4.b3 Qb5 5.a4+-]
4.a4 Qxa4
5.Re4 Qb5
[5…Rf8 6.Qxc8 Qxe4 7.Qxf8+ Kxf8 8.Rxe4+-]
6.Qxb7! winning.
Clearly 1. Qg4… Black queen has to protect the e8 square to avoid mate
1… Qb5
2. a4 – white must lose the queen to avoid mate
1.Qg4! Qb5
[1…Qd8? 2.Qxc8 Rxe2 3.Qxd8+ Bxd8 4.Rxe2+-]
2.Qc4! Qd7
3.Qc7! Qb5
[3…Qa4 4.b3 Qb5 5.a4+-]
4.a4 Qxa4
5.Re4 Qb5
[5…Rf8 6.Qxc8 Qxe4 7.Qxf8+ Kxf8 8.Rxe4+-;
Of course not 5…Rxe4 6.Qxc8+ Qe8 7.Qxe8+ Rxe8 8.Rxe8#]
6.Qxb7! winning.
Seems to be a ‘well known’ maneuver using black’s weak ground line starting with 1. Qg4.
1. -, Qd8? gives a nice short end after 2. Qxc8! so 1. -, Qb5 seems forced (regard that without Nf3 black could counter with Rxe2! here winning).
2. Qc4! (regard that black threated 2. -, Qxe2!), Qd7 (what else?) 3. Qc7!, Qa4
3…Qb5 4.a4 Qxa4 5.Re4 appears to lose a little more slowly, but that’s all.
”Clearly 1. Qg4… Black queen has to protect the e8 square to avoid mate
1… Qb5
2. a4 – white must lose the queen to avoid mate”
1.Qg4! Qb5
2.Qc4!
[Not 2.a4 Qxe2 and Black wins.]
See the rest above.
I would have to agree on 1. Qg4 however Susan asked us to assess this position, I would say “dangerous”.
A. Munoz
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dangerous” or too difficult for you.
Probably this game was made up by Torre, the ostensible loser, rather than played. It could be a variation on a game that was actually played. For evidence collected by Edward Winter, google “Adams v Torre a sham”.
– Lambent
Probably this game was made up by Torre
Interesting. A lot of the commentary here (scroll down below the game score) comes to the same conclusion.
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