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Not yet.
NOPE
There was a link to vote but I expect too much from a Kramnik fans I guess…
What in the world could be the motives to say “no”??? If the question is re-phrased to “Do you want to see another match between the two top players in the world (in any sport)?” what would be your motives to say no??? I can think of only one – fear that your favorite will loose.
Sure, eventually. Giving a defeated challenger a rematch would be an unprecedented advantage, but after Mexico City, and after Radjabov gets his shot, another Kramnik-Topalov match might not be a bad idea, though honestly, Anand would have better chances. Any rematch before Mexico City is out of the question though, in light of Rule 2.3 of the current World Championship regulations.
Yes.
In particular, at only a mere 12 games, the first match was not a decent test.
Also off-board carry-on meant it was not necessarily chess ability that decided this match.
Also Topalov had bad start due to match inexperience, not ability (like Kasparov in his first match with Karpov). This would not happen again.
Kramnik did not win a single classical game that wasn’t based on a massive Topalov blunder.
Topalov is now stronger than Kramnik, and a Topalov victory would be good for chess. The positive approach would win out over the negative approach. Go Topalov!
Also Mexico without the participation of Topalov is quite meaningless as a World Championship event. Kramnik may not participate either (and may deliberately delay his announcement of withdrawal such that it will be too late [for reasons of preparation] for Topalov to replace him).
Therefore another Topalov-Kramnik match is a far preferable event.
>>Kramnik did not win a single classical game that wasn’t based on a massive Topalov blunder.>>
And obviously a guy who blunders that much isn’t a worthy champion. If we count only the games you want to count, we can get any result we want.
>>Topalov is now stronger than Kramnik, and a Topalov victory would be good for chess.
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It would be TERRIBLE for chess. Topalov damaged the credibility of the game in the eyes of the world and was denounced as a disgrace by the ACP for doing it. To support unethical behavior for the sake of a few fewer draws is absurd. If you’re going to sell your soul, at least don’t sell it cheap.
>>The positive approach would win out over the negative approach. Go Topalov!>>
Like it did last time. And like it always has in the past. And if by chance it doesn’t, then we should just throw that result out too and keep having title matches at 3 month intervals until Topalov wins one. Then, no more title defenses for 10 years. Right?
What’s Topalov’s lifetime record against Kramnik now? Minus 7, isn’t it? It should be clear that your personal preference for Topalov’s style isn’t going to guide him to victory by itself. And if he keeps misbehaving like he did in Elista, there won’t be any more professional chess at all.
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Also Mexico without the participation of Topalov is quite meaningless as a World Championship event.
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It’s meaningless even with it. But your argument is ridiculous. You might as well say that the 1966 championship was ridiculous without Tal in it. Even though he got eliminated, that somehow shouldn’t count. Topalov hasn’t been excluded like Ivanchuk was from San Lui, he was eliminated over the board.
There’s been a proposal on the table for months to get him back in, by replacing Kramnik with Topalov, turning it into a Candidates Tournament, and have the winner advance to a Title Match. Anybody who won that tournament, and a title match too would be regarded by all as the champ.
I would like to see a rematch only if both sides can behave like adults. Chess does not need another dumb toilet stunt.
“What in the world could be the motives to say “no”???”
Maybe if you’re a fan of someone else, Anand perhaps, and think he should get a shot for a change? Though it’s certainly going to change after Wijk, he is the unofficial #1 going into this tournament.
“If the question is re-phrased to “Do you want to see another match between the two top players in the world (in any sport)?” what would be your motives to say no??? I can think of only one – fear that your favorite will loose.”
You’re not thinking very hard. Imagine if the question was this: “Do you want to see another series between the Tigers and the Cardinals?” This new series would be held before the regular season began, and would supercede the results of the 2006 World Series. The winner of this new series would be World Champion for the 2007 Season.
If you’re a Tigers fan, you’re going to love that idea, but it’s hardly fair in any sense of the word.
Anonymous @ 2:25:35 PM, you’re missing a point here (don’t know if intentionally or because you’re not thinking hard) – I haven’t seen Anand’s 2mil proposal (or anywone elses’s in that matter). You might be right if there was a line of 2700 players with $2mil each wainting to play but I’d rather see a 12 games match between ANY of the top 10 playes soon rather than say NO and hope that my guy will eventually have the money to challege.
Here’s an interesting question: Does Kramnik go to the toilet often during Corus?
Less than 5 times in every game so far.
Isn’t that odd? Either he went 40 to 50 times a game in Elista just because he knew that this distracts Topalov, or because he was cheating. I think it was the former.
good point. why so many times in elista?
These guys are PROFESSIONALS and are being offered 2 MILLION DOLLARS to do their job – they ought to take it. If they think they will get an offer like this ten years from now they are deluding themselves. Kramnik isn’t going to get another Million Dollar offer to play a computer again. Time waits for no one.
Anonymous @ 2:25:35 PM, you’re missing a point here (don’t know if intentionally or because you’re not thinking hard) – I haven’t seen Anand’s 2mil proposal (or anywone elses’s in that matter).
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Your question was what motivation (other than fear) someone might have for not wanting another Kramnik-Topalov match. I answered. You then changed the question to something completely different, namely “who else has filed a challenge?”
To answer your second question, Radjabov’s challenge was filed and accepted about a year ago. He’s next in line. But neither Radjabov nor Topalov can play a match before Mexico City without violating the 6 month rule. The next match will have to take place after that tournament.
There was never time, even if Danailov had filed his challenge immediately. The regs give FIDE 5 months to respond to a challenge. The 6 month rule says the match has to end 6 months before Mexico City (i.e. March 11). In total, that makes 11 months, which is less than the amount of time between the end of Elista and the beginning of Mexico. It just wasn’t going to happen.
FIDE rules are very “flexible” to put it mildly. In a sport where the sponsors are limited, the TV rights income is non-existent, brand endorsements are unheard, of whoever offers the $$$ makes the rules. Capish??
Yes. However, since Kramnik just defended his crown, he should not have to do so again for at least one year.
No.
There is lot of acrimony between these players. Not good for chess at all.
Only good for two players their team and FIDE
Wont be a good thing for fans.
Let us have results of Mexico WCC. Then FIDE can earn more by arranging challenges.
There should be a fight between real top two. And it should be played like professionals in sports. Like opponents not enemies.
“FIDE rules are very “flexible” to put it mildly. In a sport where the sponsors are limited, the TV rights income is non-existent, brand endorsements are unheard, of whoever offers the $$$ makes the rules. Capish??”
Sure do! It means we’ve come full circle. When the rematch talk started, Danailov was saying the rules absolutely entitled him to one, and FIDE would be “forced” to strip Kramnik of the title if he didn’t get it.
Now that it turns out that the rules are actually against Topalov all the way, the new spin is “rules don’t matter”. What a bunch of jokers.
Topalov’s going to have to wait and play a legal match. If he wants it that bad, his money will still be there after Mexico.
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Topalov’s going to have to wait and play a legal match. If he wants it that bad, his money will still be there after Mexico.
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It seems like that’s the real question here. Not “Should Topalov get another match, yes or no?” With the 2700 Rule, he can have one either way. The real question is should he have an illegal match now or a legal one later. I’d vote for legal one later.
To anonymous 2:13:43 PM
Re blunders. Yes, those blunders were not worthy of a Champion which is why Topalov is now not one.
But if Topalov eliminates these blunders (as he seems to have done; and with the experience of the previous match, is much less likely to repeat), how will Kramnik ever win a single game??
Behaviour: Let’s not forget that it was Kramnik who started this whole business by his highly suspicious toilet behaviour. If it was innocent, why did he not offer a voluntary explanation for it? I still have not seen a convincing explanation for it. (this does not mean that I think he was computer cheating; it may have just been a mind-game distraction tactic [which worked to good effect in game 10].)
A denouncement by ACP means nothing as this outfit was set up to support Kramnik in the first place!
However, I do agree that Topalov’s behaviour was not exemplary either. However, in the wider long-term view, this was as nothing as compared with Kramnik’s highly unethical behaviour since 2000. A possible by-product of a Topalov victory could be the retirement of Kranmik. This would be GREAT for chess.
You have a strange idea of what a positive approach to a chess game is if you think that doing nothing and waiting for a blunder is one.
Quoting the lifetime score of Kramnik and Topalov seems rather meaningless to me if trying to compare their CURRENT strengths. Most of Kramnik’s plus comes from before 2001 when he was indeed stronger than Topalov for most of the time.
Mexico:
I agree that a tournament is not the best way to decide the title. And seeing only two players can play a match, of course some top players are not going to be in it! (But up to 1966, Tal etc had had their chance and were eliminated within a system of rules that were by and large fair and sensible.) But it does not have to be this way for a tournament. It is absurd in this case not to have all the top players if you can, and Mexico would certainly be a lot less meaningless with them all there.
Topalov has only been “eliminated” within the context of a totally idiotic rule that should’nt be there. A rule that says the loser of a World Championship match cannot be at Mexico is just completely insane!
I am not aware of any official proposal to turn Mexico into a Candidates Tournament. The FIDE contract with the Mexico organisers is that Mexico is to decide the World Champion, not a challenger.
This ‘proposal’ is just a fantasy of some Kramnik supporters to give their man an unfair advantage.
A Topalov-Kramnik match is not a perfect solution as Anand (and others) misses out. Far better would be to have Candidate Quarterfinal matches with Kramnik, Topalov, Anand, and Leko seeded, each facing one of four qualifiers. However, given that this isn’t going to happen any time soon, or probably ever, a Topalov-Kramnik match is the best that can be done right now, and certainly far better than a crippled Mexico.
Still there are problems:
1. Suppose possible Kramnik-Topalov match is to be played after Mexico;
Will Kramnik participate Mexico?
If not who will be the world champion? The winner of Mexico? or Kramnik? I don’t think that he will participate Mexico, to me he won’t agree that the WC title will be decided by a tournement. And again we’ll have 2 WCs.
2. If FIDE decides for the possible Kramnik-Topalov match to be played in March 2007, does Kramnik have to accept it? He should have the right of asking for a couple of months to get prepared. This is his right.
A suggestion:
Let Mexico 2007 to be the candidates’ tournement. Not Kramnik but Topalov shall play in that tournement. And winner of Mexico 2007 shall play against the WC (Kramnik) in a match. And the winner of this tournement is not Topalov he may challenge the champion after Kramnik-winner of Meico match.
What do you think?
Melody, Montreal
CORRECTION-sorry; should be this way:
A suggestion:
Let Mexico 2007 to be the candidates’ tournement. Not Kramnik but Topalov shall play in that tournement. And winner of Mexico 2007 shall play against the WC (Kramnik) in a match. Then new WC will be decided by a match; maybe Kramnik or someone else. And if the winner of Mexico-2007 is not Topalov (I believe he would win it anyways) he (Topalov) may challenge the champion after Kramnik-winner of Mexico match.
What do you think?
Melody, Montreal
Melody, I’m pretty sure NONE of the parties mentioned in your post would agree to what you propose. I’m tempted to say that only a Canadian could come up with such a plan but my French manners won’t let me.
>>A denouncement by ACP means nothing as this outfit was set up to support Kramnik in the first place!>>
Oh yeah, Shirov is a long time Kramnik fan, isn’t he? LOL.
“Let Mexico 2007 to be the candidates’ tournement. Not Kramnik but Topalov shall play in that tournement. And winner of Mexico 2007 shall play against the WC (Kramnik) in a match.”
It’s a good idea, suggested many times, but FIDE doesn’t want it.
Susan says they can’t do it because Mexico signed for a WORLD Championship tournament and we can’t screw them, but that seems easy to get around. Mexico signed for a FIDE Championship tournament, not a world. The title was split when they signed. All we’d have to do is split the title again temporarily, award the FIDE title to the winner of Mexico City and have him play a match with Kramnik, the Classical Champion, to re-unify the title again. All the legal bases covered. But FIDE doesn’t want to do that, so we’re stuck with Kramnik in, Topalov out.
Martin, I’m an MD and a chess fan.
I love the game. I respect all those good players a lot and feel myself so small when I see their games. I don’t take side for Kramnik or Topalov, as I told before I respect both of them (to me Kramnik didn’t cheat, but Topalov himself really had some suspicions why Kramnik didn’t stay at the stage at all, whatever).
But I feel like Kramnik wouldn’t except the title-WC to be decided by a tournement, and traditionally it was decided by matches. So I’m not sure if he will participate Mexico, as far as I know he hasn’t confirm that. And if he doesn’t participate (it’s very unlikely another title match is to be played with Topalov before Mexico) there we have the new dispute. But if he declares that he wouldn’t participate Mexico then he will play a new title match against Topalov in a couple of months time, and we won’t even see any Mexico. Well I don;t know what will happen, just thinking loudly..
Cheers,
Melody
I happen to personally know Topalov. He’s very sincere and too naive for his own good. All he said in Elista was “I’m getting nervous when I see Kramnik only when he has to move a piece” – THAT WAS ALL. The scandal that followed was a result of Sylvio’s behavior + bad PR decisions. With a different spin (not directly accusing Kramnik, but rather leaking the fact)the chess circles would have reacted differently. Period.
>>Behaviour: Let’s not forget that it was Kramnik who started this whole business by his highly suspicious toilet behaviour.
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That’s an absurd argument. Even if Topalov had a reason to be suspicious, nobody forced him to react in an unethical way. The rules are VERY explicit: “Players or members of their delegations must not make unjustified accusations toward other players, officials or sponsors. All protests must be referred directly to the arbiter or the Technical Director of the tournament.” — FIDE Code of Ethics, Rule 2.2.9.
You’ve got to take responsibility for your own behavior. Someone might make you mad, but if you respond by burning his house down, you can’t whine that it wouldn’t have happened if he hadn’t made you mad. If Topalov still doesn’t understand this, then for the sake of the game, he shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a championship event.
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(this does not mean that I think he was computer cheating; it may have just been a mind-game distraction tactic [which worked to good effect in game 10].)
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Could have been a mind game distraction. Or could have just been restlessness. GM’s are used to roaming away from the board, and some don’t like being in sight at all times. Witness Spassky, who once went so far as to spend all his time in his rest area, analyzing off the demonstration board and only coming out to make his move. With computer technology being what it is today, the GM’s right-to-roam is something that’s probably going to have to go away soon.
Kramnik *did* offer a reasonable explanation for the video of him walking around the confines of his rest area, including in and out of his bathroom. Look it up.
There is an article on Chessbase about a book cowritten by Karpov. An old photo in this article shows Karpov pacing while playing against Korchnoi during the Candidates Match in Moscow 1974. Would you prefer to have your opponent pacing while you think, or would you prefer he leave you alone ?
The toilet is a red herring.
Nevertheless, I think a rematch between Topalov and Kramnik would be great fun.
In Moscow.
After all, Danailov did say (Chessbase again): “… would Veselin for instance agree to play a match in Moscow?” we insisted. “Immediately,” said Silvio. “Give us 48 hours and we will be there, ready to play.””
>>The scandal that followed was a result of Sylvio’s behavior + bad PR decisions.>>
Probably so, but Topalov endorsed all Sylvio’s actions, and publicly thanked him for the great job he’d done. Sure, if Topalov had disavowed Sylvio, the world would have reacted differently.
A different spin, you say. That’s exactly right. Remember the famous story about Lasker putting a cigar down by the board, and Nimzovich or somebody protesting. “But he’s not smoking it.” “I know, but he’s threatening to, and the threat is stronger than the execution.”
That’s the angle Topalov SHOULD have taken. To say that the behavior was disturbing, because even if nothing was happening, it was a distraction to be constantly wondering about it. Instead he lost his head (he said so himself at one point), fired an attack without evidence, and has kept throwing good money after bad ever since. Certainly you’re right, there was a way he could have handled this that would have made him look better.
“Kramnik *did* offer a reasonable explanation for the video of him walking around the confines of his rest area, including in and out of his bathroom. Look it up.
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Kramnik did offer an explanation, but it was *not* reasonable. Suddenly, after Elista he does not need to walk around so often and I am sure he doesn’t have a personal toilet. This behaviour was not typical of him before Elista too…
Also, I am sure many people who are reading this blog might think that I am a monster of somem sort for what I am about to say, but I don’t think that making him share a toilet with Topalov was inhuman or cruel.
2 all who talk about mexico as candidates tourney – it is nonsensw and Susan has explained why. the format and participants were finalized before Elista. Topalov, by playing in Elista, put his place in mexico on the table, and kramnik got it.
So everything is being set up by FIDE in the BEST POSSIBLE way it can be set up. As to Rajabov challenge, I doubt he still has the sponsor backup – this kind of money cant hang in the air indefinitely.
So my prediction is that Silvio’s 2 mln will go to make a match between Topalov and the winner of Mexico.
Everybody will be happy.
Nick
By the way, there is an excellent article on chessbase on the rematch matter. It gives a good summary of the practical difficulties in organizing a rematch before Mexico. In my opinion, FIDE will be crazy if they try to squeeze in the rematch before Mexico. It will not do any good to anybody, and just complicate the mess even further.
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3631
Thank you, byclops.
I think that the chess world is entitled to the following information. Does anyone have it?
What is the average number of times Kramnik went to the toilet
(1) At Elista
(2) During the Fritz match
(3) Now, at Corus
I suspect (1) is considerably higher than (2) or (3). If so, how come, just for Elista?
Personally, if I was having to go to the toilet ten times an hour, I would be anxious, as a courtesy, to advise my opponent as to why so as to avoid upsetting him and looking suspicious. That Kramnik did not extend this courtesy to Topalov shows quite possibly at the very least, a desire to unreasonably unsettle him. Kramnik could also have advised the arbiter and committee as to the reasons for his behaviour. After all, if it’s innocent, why not, what’s the problem?
As for pacing, this is normal and accepted; and most players are not unduly disturbed by it. I don’t remember Korchnoi complaining about Karpov’s pacing.
In the Spassky case [Candidates final match versus Korchnoi 1977/8], Spassky only adopted this behaviour in game 11 when five down. As he had not done it before, it was quite clear it was a distraction tactic and he was widely condemned for it at the time.
As a distraction tactic, it certainly worked as Korchnoi lost the next four.
If Kramnik’s was a distraction tactic, it certainly worked as Topalov blundered Game 10, a blunder that ultimately cost him the match.
They should have the rematch DURING Mexico City. The winner of the tournament becomes the Tournament World Champion and the winner of the match becomes the Match World Champion.
>>Kramnik did offer an explanation, but it was *not* reasonable.>>
Meanwhile, Topalov has offered no explanation for consistent and repeated ethics violations, other than that he really believes what he’s saying.
But Kramnik doesn’t owe you any explanations for legal behavior. It’s up to you to prove the behavior was illegal. This is basic jurisprudence.
>>I don’t think that making him share a toilet with Topalov was inhuman or cruel.>>
Not inhuman or cruel. Simply illegal. You can’t rewrite the rules in the middle of an event. This is something Fischer used to do to try to gain a psychological advantage. Ask for something he had no right to and threaten to walk if he didn’t get it. It helped show his opponent who the important player was, which made them feel like second-class citizens and kept them from playing their best. That was novel in Fischer’s day, but it’s old stuff now. Nobody with any sense is going to make concessions just for the heck of it, and get nothing in return.
I would love to see 2 top players play. I still think Topa and his managers behavior was a disgrace.
– Vinay
No. No time for it, and it is an unnecessary complication. Let the Mexico World Championship happen. I don’t think the double round robin format sufficient for a world championship, I want a match, but since it has already been signed, let it happen. It isn’t unfair, either. Topalov had his chance last year to contest Kramnik, and now other people who’ve been left out have that chance before the format changes. We might even get a 15th world champion there.
After Mexico, I want the current FIDE proposal to go forward, the candidates event of 128 as suggested by Kirsan, with the two cycles of 8-player round robins, though with a final match of more than 4 games between the two winners. Then we’ll get a world championship match in 2009 with the winner of Mexico. Topalov and Radjabov can wait until then, we’ll have a match every two years, and the random challenge matches can be scratched. The world champion title will regain its prestige.
Yes, webcast it, hold it in a neutral country, have adequate inspections to get rid of the suspicions that surrounded the last match. If Kramnik wins, fine, but the last win was rather strange to me and I’d like to see it done over.
you guys that say that kramnik shouldn’t have to defend for at least a year or whatever a retarded.
He sucks for the sport and i can’t wait for him to be put in his place and out of the power seat… he is an arrogant, boring, prick.
Viva Topa, the most exciting and most talented player since Kasparov.
Both Fighters…
Kramnik sucks and does nothing but draw in 17 moves…
Let us please stop all the misinformation. Here is what happened in Elista.
Kramnik leaves the board and goes out of sight of Topalov and enters his private rest room which room also contains a bathroom. Now get this straight. He does NOT return to the board. He goes simply in and out of the private door that is inside of his private rest room and the private bathroom. He never leaves his rest room. he just goes in and out of the door to the bathroom. then after doing this maybe 5 times or more. He finally returns to the board. now he is accused of going to the bathroom 5 times. But this is rediculous. He really only left the board once.
It is all misinformation by Danailov and it is working as you fall for the scam Danailov is pulling playing with words.
Notice now that if he does this twice in a hour he is accused of 10 trips to the bath room.
It was also stated by Kirsan that on review of the tape Kramnik did not go anywhere near as often as Danailov claims. AND the frequent trips only occurred on one game not all the games.
Everyone knows he was smoking cigarettes. So big deal. Maybe now he has decided to stop the cigarettes and does not have to go smoke in the bathroom. Anyway, leave the guy alone. He obviously did not cheat. The guy is a chess genius. He is just as good as Fritz10 but he does have the human trait of making a few mistakes. But otherwise he showed that he understands the position better than fritz10. That was obvious if you followed the Fritz match closely.
So why would a guy who understands chess better than fritz want to use fritz moves. Does not make sense.
Did Kramnik confirm his participation in Mexico-2007?
Not any time soon.
There are other people (like Anand) who I’d rather see play Kramnik. We’ve seen Topalov have his chance and lose. It is time for someone else to get a shot.
No need or grounds for a rematch…
Team Topailov’s outrageous behaviour shouldn’t earn them yet another chance to ruin the reputation of chess (even further) in the public spotlight.
>>>Meanwhile, Topalov has offered no explanation for consistent and repeated eRthics violations, other than that he really believes what he’s saying.>>>
Today a book titled “Toilet WAR” starts on the market – describing the toilet scandal and revealing a lot of scandalous things that happened but remained hidden for chess fans. The book is written by Journalist Zhivko Gintchev – Topalov’s spokesman and eyewitness of the elista event.
>>>…He goes simply in and out of the private door that is inside of his private rest room and the private bathroom. >>>>
Yes…and everytime he went out of the toilet he closed the door behind him! Having in mind the Internet cable which was found, pictured and documented by the security commission in Elista – this is getting suspicios, ha?
>>>…So why would a guy who understands chess better than fritz want to use fritz moves. Does not make sense.>>>
You are joking – Fri.z defeated Kramnik 4-2 without a single win for Kramnik.
yes, if it is held in switzerland
>>>…So why would a guy who understands chess better than fritz want to use fritz moves. Does not make sense.>>>
“You are joking – Fri.z defeated Kramnik 4-2 without a single win for Kramnik.”
Kramnik and any grandmaster above 2700 still understands chess better than any computer.
The computer is by far the better tactician in a certain time-frame. That are positions, where I take here, he takes there, than I do this and then check and double attack.
In strategic play it still have many problems…
“Meanwhile, Topalov has offered no explanation for consistent and repeated ethics violations, other than that he really believes what he’s saying.
But Kramnik doesn’t owe you any explanations for legal behavior. It’s up to you to prove the behavior was illegal. This is basic jurisprudence.”
No no, you’ve got it completely wrong.
1. Although I think it would be nice to the fans if Kramnik gave an explanation for his unusual behavior, I agree that I can’t demand one and I don’t demand one.
2. The appeals committee, however, could and did demand an explanation, after being notified by team Topalov. It found the explanation unsatisfactory(so did I) and acted accordingly.
3. To my knowledge no official has asked an explanation from Topalov about his “ethics violations”. You might demand one, but look at point 1. By the way, his behavior was certainly not illegal, or he is lucky not to have suffered any consequences.
“Not inhuman or cruel. Simply illegal. You can’t rewrite the rules in the middle of an event.”
No rules were rewritten. According to the contract Kramnik was entitled to a restroom and a toilet. He had both. At least to my knowledge, the location of the toilet was not mentioned there.
All these charges of Kramnik cheating are silly! He did as well in speed chess, and his play was as good when he stayed at the board during the standard games!
Will these Topalov/Danailov crybabies never grow up and face the fact that Kramnik played better chess and that Topalov choked?
yes i want a rematch because it’s a world champion against player highter rating elo .
Boy, Topalov is small! Sure this isn’t a trick photo?
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Boy, Topalov is small! Sure this isn’t a trick photo?….
It isn’t only the photo!!!
The presence of the cable has been documented and signed by the organization committee and judges representatives!!!Period.
This document is available and soon will be spread over internet.
I enjoyed the match between the two, and the next one will be as dramatic if not more so, and I expect an even higher level of chess (fewer blunders). It might be one for the ages!
I feel bad for my man kramnik to have to go through the exhausting pressure of another match, and following all the garbage he has had to endure, but that said the match might be spectacular!
Topalov could never play his best against Kramnik. If you read the abc.es interview, his delusions have gotten worse. Now he thinks the restrooms are irrelevant, and Kramnik actually receives signals at the board through some hidden implant. If your opponent is cheating even when he stays at the board, and evidence doesn’t matter, then Topalov needs psychological help before he’ll be able to play his best in another match. Not only is there’s no point playing now, there’s a severe risk of Topalov damaging the game again.
“”Anyway, leave the guy alone. He obviously did not cheat. The guy is a chess genius. He is just as good as Fritz10 but he does have the human trait of making a few mistakes. But otherwise he showed that he understands the position better than fritz10. That was obvious if you followed the Fritz match closely.””
I completely agree with above quotation. Kramnik is the best chess talent after Kasparov. He defeated Kasparov 21 times and was defeated 22 times and they had draw 79 times! This is because both was top and close players in game strength, so many of games were in draw.
What Topalov is that he only have good (and may be exegarated) home preperation. Because he is hungry of success and therefore always playing aggressive.
But Kramnik is not a kid to show himself to anyone! He is world chess champion he is the winner of two WCC matches! He showed his talent when he was young! When he was above 2800 what was the rating of topalov? (Think that they both at the same age) this difference shows who was the real chess genious! Of course Kramnik is always better than Topalov.
And overall score is 23-14 difference is 9 not 7 (truly difference is 10, because one of topalovs point is 5th “unplayed” game of elista!)
By the way I want the rematch after mexico event. I don’t think that Kramnik will accept a rematch before mexico.
Dear hayri,
with all respect, it looks like you say things without thinking at all. Why would Kramnik prefer to have rematch after mexico rather than before??? Chances are not big he will win the tournament, while match before mexico is a guaranteed sum of 1 mln in his pocket plus high chances of winning (topa is much weaker in a match)
Nick