Who will have a more spectacular career?
M. Carlsen
S. Karjakin
Someone else?
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so far, Carlsen. In the future, who knows?
carlsen. as phenomenal as kasparov in 1980.
i think u missing the big issue here, who will be happier in life???
jb.
“i think u missing the big issue here, who will be happier in life???”
I don’t think anyone is missing that issue, it’s just that we have no basis upon which to make any kind of determination as to who will have the happier life.
What would you base your opinion upon, jb?
Karjakin obviously. Carlsen is a patzer who just gets by with the media for his good looks. However, real chess is decided over the board and not in the media. All it takes is one look at the rating list to see how over rated Carlsen is where Karjakin really struggles with his chess like a true master.
Nepomniachtchi, Naroditsky, and Hou Yifan!
this is the fide standings 1972
July 1972 FIDE rating list. Top 6 players
Fischer USA 2785
Spassky, URS 2660
Petrosian, URS 264 Polugaevsky, URS 2645
Kortchnoi, URS 2640
Portisch, HUN 2640
fischer as you can see was 125 elo points better than number 2 in the world. this would mean carelson would need to be aorund 2925 elo . when carelson breaks 2900 elo ill beging to compare him to fischer . until then hes not even close. in fact no time ever did kasparov approach a 125 elo gap between him and everyone else. since the only accurate way to measure a person strength is against his competition i will conslude that in the modern era fischer was the best. there can be no question. any comparisons are ridiculous and shouldn’t be taken seriously.
It’s strange that certain individuals are developing a simple-minded view that Carlsen is a patzer or somehow lucky. Some people claimed this after his recent win over Shirov at Aerosvit. I think Carlsen has a greater will to win (right now at least), but it is clear that Karjakin has the edge in theory. Mig pointed out on Daily Dirt that it seems like Karjakin consistently discovers novelties, esp. late in the opening. A match between these two would be the ideal way to settle the question, though.
Carlsen is incredibly lucky is all.
1st in Corus
2nd in Linares
2nd in Amber
1st in Baku Grand Prix
1st in Aerosvit
Sooner or later the lucky streak will be broken and his true lack of talent will show through, until then we can only bide our time with this pretender.
“Lucky”?
You don’t play chess, do you? If you did, you’d know that chess is a game of skill with very little luck involved.
Sure, your opponent can blunder once and give you a free win. But Carlsen’s string of incredible results show without a doubt that he is WAY more than lucky. He’s actually pretty amazing in the way he manages to get winning advantages in drawish positions against the world elite.
Magnus will be King. He’s well on his way already.
Anon 4:23, are you jealous?
I think Anon 4:23 was sarcastically responding to the earlier nay-sayers, and Anon 6:18 completely missed that.
Yes, I did miss the sarcasm. My apologies to Anon 4:23. His/her post actually made the point best, for those sharp enough to catch the ironic tone anyways…
Tommy and Leeam!
Martha Stewart!!!
carlsen is lucky , fischer was lucky, topalov is the best !
p.s martha stewart is lucky too
I think anonymous comment “”i think u missing the big issue here, who will be happier in life???” is the best an probably the only valuable.
They are human, not chessmachines !
And, for “The best”, you have the answer : A computer (which one, that’s another question).
Carlsen is already the “big show” right now. Anybody with a different view is just envious or knows nothing about chess.
It’s good for chess to have a new superstar like Fischer and Kasparow.