6r1/4pp1k/1p4qp/3Pn1r1/4QR2/P1P1N3/1P3PP1/4R1K1 b – – 0 1
Black to move. What is the best continuation for Black?
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well, it seems that black wins a whole rook with
1….QxQ
2.RxQ Nf3+
3.Kf1 (3.Kh1 Rh5 mates)
4.Nd2+ king moves
5.NxR
henry you are brillant
If 1…Nd3? then Rf7+
so, 1… Qe4 2, Re4 Nf3+, 3. Kf1 ( Kh1? Rh4+) Nd2+
White should play out the resulting position b/c black is left with an extra redundant rook ( value 4.5) and white has an advantage in center and space. Black is winning no doubt, but I could draw this as white against say a 2000 player.
I am a 2000 player, who has not played for 15 years. I will play out this position with you for $10,000. That rook is worth 700 rating points at this point of the game. You got no chance
obviously if one can prepare for it ( put it on fritz) it is easy to win for black. But if i dropped the rook, i would immediately play g3, to be followed by Nc4 and Ke3. While black shuffles his rooks to the queenside I take the bpawn and activate my king. time pressure would also play a role. We can set it up on ICC with a 5 minute time control. mess me at SSM. In the heat of battle, I would confuse a 2000, but preparing to play it out is not the heat of battle. White has many trumps.
I don’t know what I find funnier:
anonymous’ boastful claim to be able to still draw this (definitely lost) game… or Robert’s answer that the rook is worth 700 rating points.
In earlier days I learned “a rook is worth 5 pawns”, nowadays it’s worth rating points…. sorry to say this, Robert, but I predict you to be a person who regards ELO numbers as very important (as most important!?) in chess, do you?
Anonymous, I predict a 2000 player (or even a blunderer like me) would win this (without problems) against a super GM.
But I am very interested in reading here how your game against robert ended though I don’t think, it’s going to happen (with you not even say who you are).
I still wonder how you play “Ke3” and why white can simply take that b-pawn which (e.g.) can simply go to b5 to send away the knight…..
Amused greetings
Jochen
I gave my icc handle. i won a queen down otb against a 2100 in 2003. i said the position was lost but in a 5 minute game…
Read carefully before you speak. Calculation speed in a 5 minute game is a great equalizer.
“. i said the position was lost but in a 5 minute game…”
Nope you didn’t. Read careful what you write.
Nothing about time in your first post. Nothing of it in the beginning of the second post you just talk about preparing with Fritz.
Just THEN you say “time pressure would also play a role.”.
Before (especially in the whole first post) you say nothing about time.
Whatever you think I DID read your post carefully. So thin carefully before you WRITE.
Geez at blitz I might hang a queen v a paatzer. At any normal time control you have absolutely no chance. I could really care less about rating points but I do care about $10,000.
I doubt you really have a USCF or FIDE rating of over 2000 because if you had any clue about chess and chess players then you would know you would have no chance, zero zip.
You are probably a wanna be C player who likes to talk smack, but has no money to back his talk.
Hmm so you beat a 2000 something at blitz when he hung a piece.. BFD I beat a GM in a simul when he missed a simple two mover for a piece. Whoppie do, means nuthin.
Maybe you should try backgammon where you have a chance to get lucky
Hi Robert:
Not sure what is so great about an ELO 2000. In case you didnt realize, world champion is usually 2800+. Maybe somebody wrongly told you that ELO 2000 is enough to become world champion.
Anyway, i dont want to belittle you. Your rating of 2000 is ok, but its not something you need to boast of.
I onlly know so well that an ELO of 2000 is nothing great and nothing to boast about. But, “anonymous” is a pretty cocky lad to boast he could spot a 2000 player a rook, in a dead lost position, and still kick his (my) ass. In defense of all us patzers, I am willing to bet $10,000 he is full of manure.
You cocky masters are good but not that good.