Here are some of the biggest upsets in the first round of the 2010 Women’s World Championship:
1. GM Pia Cramling (2526), semifinalist in 2008, has been eliminated by Turkish WIM Betul Cemre Yildiz (2225).
2. WGM Natalia Pogonina (2472), who just came off a first place tie at the Russian Women’s Championship, lost to WGM Baira Kovanova (2380) by the score of 0-2!
3. GM Elina Danielian (2466) also lost to WGM Tatiana Shadrina (2384) 0-2!
4. WGM Shen Yang (2461) lost to IM Evgenija Ovod (2387) 0.5-1.5.
5. GM Natalia Zhukova (2447) lost to IM Marina Romanko (2414) 0.5 – 1.5.
A number of other matches ended in a 1-1 tie and will head to rapid / blitz playoff tomorrow.
Full results here: https://chessdailynews.com/womens-world-championship-results/
Cramling must have lost on time, because her position was OK. What were the time controls?
40/90 + 30″ inc then +30′ + 30″ inc.
You can say Yildiz had home court advantage.
Never seen Pia Cramling playing in the blitz tournaments. She is too slow. Need training playing faster.
Yancey Ward, I think it’s that the scoresheets aren’t filled in fully yet. Look at Pogonina’s game according to chessgames for example: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1601870
Congratualations to Betül. This is a great victory…
Ceamling’s loss is amazing, but calling the other games big upsets is strange. Losing to somebody with less than 100 elo lower is just not a big deal at all.
Well done !!
Betul Yildiz who got a Wild Card.
Turkuy can be proud, and no one really expected the Swedish to become WC after all.
Cramling had a better position (according to the silicon) in the first game and was fine in the second. it seems that the clock caught up. She’s older than all of the other women in the top 100 except for Maia and is older than everybody in the top 100 overall. It gets harder as we age.
Do you know how big is 100 points in that level? It’s like 300 points for an average player. Of course they’re huge upsets. Stop trolling.
“Do you know how big is 100 points in that level? It’s like 300 points for an average player. Of course they’re huge upsets. Stop trolling.”
This is 100% false. A 100 points difference is always a 0.36 score expectancy for the lower-rated player. http://www.kosteniuk.com/EloCalc/elo.php So almost by definition they will score 0.36 against someone 100 points ahead of them.
Please stop making things up on the spot and get an actual clue yourself before you call other people trolls when they are trying to make a serious point (which is an extremely obnoxious thing to do). I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt this time and assume it’s because he slightly contradicted Susan that caused you to say that, but it was really immature.
Using the expression “Massive upsets” about players who beat opponents rated 50-100 ELO-points higher is without doubt misleading; especially when the matches are over just two games. It was only one real big surprise/”massive upset”, according to ELO-numbers, and that was Cramling’s loss.
About first time I think I can criticize choice of headlines here.
“Do you know how big is 100 points in that level? It’s like 300 points for an average player. Of course they’re huge upsets. Stop trolling.”
This is 100% false. A 100 points difference is always a 0.36 score expectancy for the lower-rated player. So almost by definition they will score 0.36 against someone 100 points ahead of them.
Please stop making things up on the spot and get an actual clue yourself before you call other people trolls when they are trying to make a serious point (which is an extremely obnoxious thing to do). I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt this time and assume it’s because he slightly contradicted Susan that caused you to say that, but it was really immature.
100 points is not an earth shaking upset, especially in a 2 game match.
“Do you know how big is 100 points in that level? It’s like 300 points for an average player. Of course they’re huge upsets. Stop trolling.”
I am trolling? Bullshit. It’s you who have no idea about what your saying. Silly. Grow up.
When GM Natalia Zhukova (2447) lost to IM Marina Romanko (2414) 0.5 – 1.5. you have 2 games between players with 33 elo points difference. Even if elo calculation told the perfect truth about players present truth, and it does NOT, it’s far away from being an upset.
I will say that in a tournament like this, with a lot og two games matches, it would be very strange if all the matches got an “expected” result.
Arnfinn
Oslo, Norway
“I will say that in a tournament like this, with a lot og two games matches, it would be very strange if all the matches got an “expected” result.”
Yep. 1/3rds of the time, the 2/3rd expected results are expected to be wrong!
You could analyze this by adding up all the scores of the higher rated players and see if they met their “expected” scores overall as a group. Pogonina and Cramling would set the favourites back, but how many others won their matches?
If you wanted to, you could exclude the players where the ratings difference was let’s say 100 points or less, as Susan could have been excluding the possibility for this type of “mini-upset” and concentrating on the MAJOR upsets. (for example, suppose the two top seed lost to two 2000 rated players… then Susan could legitimately call them massive upsets and it wouldn’t matter if 20 other results showed the “expected” results coming up). I’ve probably lost everyone’s attention by now, I just find this kind of interesting.