White prevents Rh7+ and moves the bishop out of capture, while strengthening the pawns. Now the Black King can’t approach the pawns and the White King is coming to support the pawns.
@anon 12:57:00 CST, RxR stalemates the Black King.
Definitely a weird position. Of course, Rg4 is stalemate, so white needs some other method of winning. My very first thought was to just concede the rook by playing Bd3 with the plan of pushing c4 and try to win the B+2P vs R endgame:
1. Bc3 Rg7 2. Kd8
Here, Kc8/b8 won’t matter as black keeps the opposition with Kc6/b6, and the white king cannot move towards a8 without getting mated. Continuing:
2. …..Kd6 3. Ke8
In order to try to get off the 8th rank. Continuing:
3. …..Ke6 4. Kf8 Kf6 and it is clear that white never leaves the 8th rank. Of course, here, black cannot make progress with a move along the g-file since white has bishop moves and pawn moves in order to keep his king from leaving g8 unguarded. No, white needs a different plan. So, what could it possibly be? Well, about a microsecond after I considered 1.Bd3, it hit me what the actual winning plan is:
1. Rg8!!
On g8, the rook is guarded by the bishop, but black cannot take at c4 with the king without losing his rook to Rg4, and if he takes at c4 with the rook, Rg5 is mate! From here, I see no moves for black other than to move the rook off the g-file:
1. …..Re4 2. Bd3 and white will play c4 sooner or later and be up a piece and two doubled pawns- an easy win.
the position of the opposing kings the makes for an interesting mate. If RxR then Black is stalemated. So Rg8 and if RxR then BxR and wins with extra pawn. Kxc4 then Rxg4 wins so only other choice is RxB when Rg5 mates. nice one!
A joke? Yes, but in another way: RxR draws easily for white (stalemate).
What about 1. Rg8? On 1.- Rxg8 follows 2. Bxg8 and white wins. On 1.- Rxc4 follows 2. Rg5#. On 1.- Kxc4 follows 2. Rxg4+ and white wins. On other black moves white keeps his advantage and should win, e.g. 1.- Rh4 2. Bd3 etc.
(Annonymous RxR wins)no,it is stalemate. The problem is how to avoid stalemate without losing a piece. 1 Rg8 (a)1 …. Rxc4 2 Rg5# (b)1…. Rxg8 2 Bxg8 (c) any other move you can move the bishop and stalemate is lifted.
i think, Rg8 is sufficient to secure the white advantage. RxB will be answered by checkmate and black has to move the rook away from the g-file. greets, jan
B can’t take the B nor can’t exchange the R. Black King can’t move and Rook can’t stay on g-column.
1. … Rh4 2. Bd3 For controlling h7 and allowing Rg5. Black can move Kd5 or protect the line 5. But, 2….Rh5 3. Rh7 is hopeless.
2. … Kd5 3. c4+ Kc5 4. Rg5 followed by c5. The pawn goes to c8 and Black has to exchange it aginst his Rook. Black can take the white Rook. It doesn’nt matter.
1. … Rf4 2. Be6 Controlling f7 2. … Kb5 3. c4+
1. … Re4 2. Bd3 Re7+ 3. Kc8 And the pawn can go on c4
Rg8. If Rxb then Rg5 mate, if KxB then RxR, and if the black rook takes on g8 then simply BxR and providing white keeps one pawn he wins so the Black rook should move from the G file and white keeps the B and wins easily.
Is this a joke? RxR wins easily for white. I don’t get why this is a problem?
Anonymous,
1.Rg4 is stalemate.
I think
1. Rg8 Rh5
avoiding a rook trade.
2. Bd3
White prevents Rh7+ and moves the bishop out of capture, while strengthening the pawns. Now the Black King can’t approach the pawns and the White King is coming to support the pawns.
@anon 12:57:00 CST, RxR stalemates the Black King.
RxR leads to stalemate.
Stalement: it really is a joke
Definitely a weird position. Of course, Rg4 is stalemate, so white needs some other method of winning. My very first thought was to just concede the rook by playing Bd3 with the plan of pushing c4 and try to win the B+2P vs R endgame:
1. Bc3 Rg7
2. Kd8
Here, Kc8/b8 won’t matter as black keeps the opposition with Kc6/b6, and the white king cannot move towards a8 without getting mated. Continuing:
2. …..Kd6
3. Ke8
In order to try to get off the 8th rank. Continuing:
3. …..Ke6
4. Kf8 Kf6 and it is clear that white never leaves the 8th rank. Of course, here, black cannot make progress with a move along the g-file since white has bishop moves and pawn moves in order to keep his king from leaving g8 unguarded. No, white needs a different plan. So, what could it possibly be? Well, about a microsecond after I considered 1.Bd3, it hit me what the actual winning plan is:
1. Rg8!!
On g8, the rook is guarded by the bishop, but black cannot take at c4 with the king without losing his rook to Rg4, and if he takes at c4 with the rook, Rg5 is mate! From here, I see no moves for black other than to move the rook off the g-file:
1. …..Re4
2. Bd3 and white will play c4 sooner or later and be up a piece and two doubled pawns- an easy win.
Rg8?
the position of the opposing kings the makes for an interesting mate. If RxR then Black is stalemated. So Rg8 and if RxR then BxR and wins with extra pawn. Kxc4 then Rxg4 wins so only other choice is RxB when Rg5 mates. nice one!
Rg8?
Rg8
A joke? Yes, but in another way: RxR draws easily for white (stalemate).
What about 1. Rg8? On 1.- Rxg8 follows 2. Bxg8 and white wins. On 1.- Rxc4 follows 2. Rg5#. On 1.- Kxc4 follows 2. Rxg4+ and white wins. On other black moves white keeps his advantage and should win, e.g. 1.- Rh4 2. Bd3 etc.
(Annonymous RxR wins)no,it is stalemate.
The problem is how to avoid stalemate without losing a piece.
1 Rg8
(a)1 …. Rxc4 2 Rg5#
(b)1…. Rxg8 2 Bxg8
(c) any other move you can move the bishop and stalemate is lifted.
Rg8 guys! Easy problem 🙂 Give us something harder!
Rg8 wins
Rg8 !! It’s nice.
i think, Rg8 is sufficient to secure the white advantage. RxB will be answered by checkmate and black has to move the rook away from the g-file. greets, jan
rg8
RxR is draw… 1.Rg8 wins!
1.Rg8
1.Rg8
B can’t take the B nor can’t exchange the R.
Black King can’t move and Rook can’t stay on g-column.
1. … Rh4
2. Bd3
For controlling h7 and allowing Rg5. Black can move Kd5 or protect the line 5. But, 2….Rh5 3. Rh7 is hopeless.
2. … Kd5
3. c4+ Kc5
4. Rg5 followed by c5.
The pawn goes to c8 and Black has to exchange it aginst his Rook. Black can take the white Rook. It doesn’nt matter.
1. … Rf4
2. Be6 Controlling f7
2. … Kb5
3. c4+
1. … Re4
2. Bd3 Re7+
3. Kc8 And the pawn can go on c4
Wow, i found it!
After lunch is easier to find the solution to this kind of puzzles!
Rg8. If Rxb then Rg5 mate, if KxB then RxR, and if the black rook takes on g8 then simply BxR and providing white keeps one pawn he wins so the Black rook should move from the G file and white keeps the B and wins easily.
RXR is stalemate. However, Rg5+ and then RxR+ wins
1.Rg8 Rxc4 2.Rg5#
RxR is a stalemate, but Rb8 is an improvement, as neither K or R can take the B.
Rg8 is the only move.
The uselessness of the c2 pawn is noteworthy of remark…
…furthermore, this is a false (not cooked nor busted) version of a study. Source will be posted after the solutions.
Greetings to Wolverine and Yancey Ward, in alphabetical order.
white has to move,right then how rg8 is possible ,what about black rook’s attack?
It’s nice but this is an impossible position?
What could be the last move of black?
The last move for black was Rxg4 hoping for stalemate.