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I feel outrage over such a short game. 4 1/2 moves. White made move 5 and black made 4 moves.
I am personally shocked by Gata. If he wants to play among the elite then he needs to do better than this.
5 moveeeeeeeees ?
5 moves of Ehlvest and 4 moves of Kamsky!
Yes, this position looks very drawish!
-rolleyes-
The arbiter would be justified to refuse the result and tell them to continue. It is against the rules of chess to take a draw without playing.
This is only round 7 – two more rounds to play, correct? If it were round 9 and this draw would assure the players a guaranteed payday or position, at least that would be understandable but why now? Why even bother to show up – why didn’t they just phone it in to the arbiter’s table and both of them could have slept in.
For all of his many faults, Fischer during his pre-1975 career upheld a real professional code – if he showed up he came to play. If he came to play, he came to play to win.
Terrible chess! gata k ur a shame!
Well, as usual, congratulations to Susan for inviting the bashers to the party.
This draw was legal and didn’t hurt anyone. Now grow up and start picking on something important.
wow … they played for 3 minutes 🙂 … at least Jaan did :))
anyway, the match eventually ended in a draw, so why playing 50+ moves to see the same result
Gata took the draw offer because he was running short on time.
Susan just had a discussion on draws. I do not think there will be a good solution until the rules are changed so a draw is no longer a possible outcome.
Some person recently had a good simple rules that end all draws.
1. stalemating player wins. Stalemated player loses.
2. move into 3 fold repetition and you lose
3. last to make a pawn move or capture before the 50 move rule wins.
4. King and King the last one to have extra material wins.
Seems pretty simple to me.
Other possible ideas are to allow the capture of the king as has been done for so long in some blitz. This probably can not happen on Internet Chess. ICC will only allow legal moves.
Geurt Gijssen could probably formulate some rules. I believe this will have to be done to make chess more popular. The present rules are silly. Back in the 15th Century they were formulated. Now is the time to make some changes due to modern technology and the modern problems.
fighting game…
IMO, this is even worse than cheating. At least in cheating, we get to watch an exciting game. I propose that we ban these two players forever! 😉
No you can not do that.
What they did was within the rules. You must change the rules if you are going to stop quick draws.
It only takes 4 small rules to eliminate all draws. And the 4 rules make sense.
The present rules of chess were formulated in 15th Century. The 1400’s some 600 years ago. They used to believe that the earth was flat and that the sun went around the earth. Now we corrected those errors. Lets fix the errors in chess.
And that was in Round 6, not 7.
Not to add more fuel to this fire, but how many rounds are played each day? If it is two – perhaps this was the second round of the day, and Kamsky and Ehlvest wanted to play it out. For Kamsky he had Black and may not have wanted to exert himself further – I doubt he would done so if he had White.
A 4.5 move draw?? That’s ridiculous, I don’t care what the situation was.
Aces This is important. No major sport in the USA could get away with it..The saying ..”Thats why they play the game” means something here. Draws like this makes it impossible to sell chess to any network or sponsor..how do you sell a 5 move chess game?
Gata Kamsky and Jan Ehlvest are hereby cursed not to win this tournament.
Who cares if you can’t “sell chess”? Why do we have to adapt to the laws of profit-driven commercialism? Is chess too odd to be marketable, AND IT IS, so be it.
if you cant sell it..
it dies….
no more chess!..i guess that sounds good to you!
It is obvious the grandmasters felt their energy was better used defeating other opponents than struggling with each other.
I followed the tournament for fun on the internet and enjoyed following each round. When I saw this game, I felt insulted. I was looking forward to a great game and instead got 5 moves.
It is difficult for fans to sustain interest in a tournament when you feel the best players will avoid seriously playing each other simply to prey on the lower rated players.
If chess wants an audience to follow it as a sport, then it needs to ensure that the best players actually compete when they are scheduled to compete.
A large audience draws sponsors. Sponsors provide money. Money enables chess professionals. Professionals can then maintain and elevate the highest practice of the sport.
A bunch of “professionals” who insult their audience with a quick draw game sow the seeds of relative isolation for the sport of chess. If poker can be sold as a spectator sport, then there is no reason chess cannot be packaged and sold to fans as well.
Tell these guys to get day jobs. It seems there is no profession here.