White to move. Is this a win, draw, or loss for White? Please no computer lines.
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Win!
1. c7 c3 2. c8=Q c2
Normally positions like this are draw but this time because of extra h-pawn there is no stalemate after Ka1 Qxc2!
Draw.
White wins.
It must be a win because white can easily draw with
1. c7, c3
2. c8=Q, c2
3. Qh8+, Kb1
4. Qxh5, …
and this is not so fantastic 🙂
8:45 AM CDT
Reminds me on the cook in the endgame from August 19.
After move 9 black can reach:
W: Kc5, Pd4
B: Kh1 Pa7, Ph7
Black to move and draw.
This would be a draw without the black pawn in h5 because king’s bishop pawn on the seventh rank leads to a stalemate. However, this endgame is a win for white. Here is a possible line
1. c7, c3
2. c8=Q, c2
3. Qh8+, Kb1
4. Qh7, h4
(if the black king keeps on maneouvering then the white king can get close enough to it and mate will follow – there will be no stalemate as long as the black pawn in h5 is present)
5. Kb5, h3
6. Kb4, h2
7. Kb3, h1=Q
8. Qxc2+,
followed by mate.
8:58 AM CDT
IM Ben Finegold is 40 today? Wow!
Quite a few great players accross the world turn 40 this year, right Susan?
Posts by Anonymous 7:55AM and Cali Breezy weren’t very helpful ,:) but I think Cali is right:
The first moves are obvious:
1.c7 c3 2.c8+Q c2
Without the black h-pawn the position would be theoretically drawn. At some stage, the game would end with Qb3+ Ka1! Qc2: stalemate. But with another pawn on the board, there is no stalemate. White first has to bring his queen closer to the action, then his king.
So first there is 3.Qh8+ Kb1 4.Qh7 (pinning the pawn) Kb2 5.Qg7+ Kb1 6.Qg6 Kb2 7.Qf6+ Kb1 8.Qf5 Kb2 9.Qb5+ Ka1 10.Qc4 Kb2 11. Qb4+ Ka1 12. Qc3+ Kb1 13. Qb3+ Kc1.
Now the king: 14.Kc5. Obviously black can move his king again to threaten promotion of the c-pawn, but with similar queen maneouvres the king is forced to c1 again. So I just give an abbreviated line which would eventually happen in the game (prior to move 52 when black could claim a draw):
14.-h4 15.Kc4 h3 16. Kc3 h2 17.Qc2: mate (just in time, actually with one tempo left for white).
1 c7 c3
2 c8=Q c2
3 Qh8+ Kb1
4 Qh7 pinning the pawn to black’s king. if black goes Kc1 to break the pin, white checks on h6. if the pattern continues the h pawn will be captured with check, the white queen will close forcing black to block his own pawn — white king advances, black moves, white forces black back in front of his pawn, white king advances, etc.
if black lives with the pin and pushes his h pawn 4…h4, white simply closes the gap with his king:
5 Kb5 h3
6 Kb4 h2
7 Kb3 h1 = any piece
8 Qxc2+ Ka1
and white plays Qa2 or Qb2#
Textbook draw. Bishop’s pawn on 7th rank.
I would say white wins by using the “stair pattern” with the queen:
1.c7 c3
2.c8Q c2
3.Qh8+ Kb1
4.Qh7 Kb2
5.Qg7+ Kb1
6.Qg6 Kb2
7.Qf6+ Kb1
8.Qf5 Kb2
9.Qe5+ Kb1
10.Qe4 Kb2
11.Qd4+ Kb1
12.Qb4+ Ka2
13.Qc3 Kb1
14.Qb3+ Kc1
and now I think white king comes to help queen capture the pawn, h-pawn is lost and so is black king.
Gerardo Ulises Perez Garcia
Ganan las blancas, promueven el peòn, con un tempo de ventaja,dan jaque a la siguiente y aproximan el Rey Blanco,sin riesgo de ahogar al Rey negro, por la presencia del peòn en la columna h…White wins, they promote the pawn with a tempo, check the next move, to approach the white King, without the risk of stalemating the black King, because the pawn in the h column
Witout the pawn on h5 it would be drawn, cause white could only reach a stalemate. but the pawn avoids the stalemate and white can win.
Urso
Blak wins.
C7 is the move but it turns out to be just a draw after wht queens.If blk keep the pawn on c2 and the king on b1,b2 then it all a draw. The wht queen will not be able to take them.
Win or draw- I don’t think it is possible for black to force a win in this position (the h-pawn is taken whenever white wants to take it).
Well, lets look at what seems the obvious first moves:
1. c7 c3
2. c8(Q)c2
3. Qh8
Now, black has a choice as to where the king goes:
3. …..Kb1 (Ka2 or Kb3 loses)
4. Qh7
If black tries unpinning the pawn by moving the king, white can march the queen along the a1/h8 and b2/h7 diagonals, through a series of checks and pins, until it pins the c-pawn to the b1 king from d3 (Qd3 is move 12 for white). At this point, black must either move the king to b2/c1, or play h4 (Ka1 is no good since stalemate is not an issue). With Kc1, white has time to move his king forward, so I think black’s correct move is one of the other two options:
Option 1;
12. …..Kb2
13. Qb5 Ka1
14. Qa4 Kb2
15. Qb4 Ka2
16. Qd2 Kb1, and I am damned if I see a way for white to make any progress here. I vote draw.
white wins with perpetual checks towards row 5
am i missing something? this is a clear black win for me with the a pawn queening.
White wins, but only because of Black’s pawn on h5. Without it, or with it any closer to promotion, Black holds a draw.
First, win the pawn race
1. c7 c3
2. c8(Q) c2
Second, walk the queen to the pawn by pinning it.
3. Qh8+ Kb1
4. Qh7 Kb2
5. Qg7+ Kb1
6. Qg6 Kb2
7. Qf6+ Kb1
8. Qf5 h4
Third, walk the king to the pawn whenever the h-pawn advances, or when the Black king blocks promotion. Because of the stalemate possibility, White should avoid capturing the h-pawn.
9. Kc5 Kb2
10. Qe5+ Kb1
11. Qe4 Kb2
12. Qb4+ Ka2
13. Qc3 Kb1
14. Qb3+ Kc1
15. Kd4 Kd1
16. Qd3+ Ke1
17. Qxc2 Kf1
18. Kh2
Nothing’s left.
With the h5-Pawn on h7 it is a draw.
Yes, Vijay – you are missing something. There is no a-pawn …
This is a win for white, as several have already said.